Andre Ward roasts Canelo over Benavidez

What exactly do you think is the purpose of a forum? lol

 

Put and end to it ?? ROFL Ask the forum who they think won the 3 Ginger/GGG fights, GGG won first 2 going away but the vegas mafia gifted a draw &win to ginger. The third was ggg going in for the $$$ he knew he'd never get a winning decision over Ginger. in actuality if GGG had started to FIGHT earlier he may well have stopped the ginger fraud who was exhausted at the final bell, GGG was still fresh as a daisy

 

If you came in thinking everybody would agree with your take on Ward's opinion then you just played yourself.

You've been here over 7 years you should know better.

 

GGG only won the first fight. The second was a draw. The third was clearly Canelo.

 

I saw it the same way, but I would say with all due respect that fighting Canelo didn't end GGG's hype - it gave him a chance to prove himself at the very highest level and we got two excellent fights.

 

That is your version not mine or the majority of boxing fans world wide I'm afraid

 

Ward should know, he's had his fair share of ducking and "A side" shenanigans .

Ward is a bitter a-hole. His refusal to travel, not to fight certain fighters and retiring early in a division that was getting hot will always haunt his legacy.

IMO...

 

The problem is, it's ironic since he's complaining about something he took advantage off. Ward was part of the reason boxing sucks now.

That's like a ex corrupt politician complaining about corruption in politics. Whatever you are saying might be true, but because of who you are, nobody cares about the message.

 

What makes him an a-hole, though?

 

No one likes Ward

His book is doing atrociously too apparently

 

A-hole might be too strong of a term, or maybe it’s just subjective. I’ll tell you what turned me off about Ward, but first, here’s what was right about Ward to me when he started the Super 6:
1. A young, undefeated American in a division that had been dominated by non Americans for a while.
2. The only (and so far last) Olympic gold medalist for America.
3. He’s a Christian.
4. He was a nice looking, well-spoken guy.
5. Supposedly, he hadn’t lost a fight since he was 12 or 14.
6. His promoter and trainer both seemed like good guys in the sport.
7. All of that considered, he seemed like an all around good guy and someone who’d pick up the banner of American boxing in a very positive way.
Now here’s what turned me off:
1. By the time he’d won the Super 6, I remember thinking, somewhat sheepishly, that young Ward was reminiscent of old Hopkins; that is, kind of dirty. His style was effective, but not aesthetically pleasing. This was really highlighted in his fights with Kessler and Bika. If you are capable of out-dirtying Bika, then you must be filthy!
2. He was the only fighter in the entire tournament that didn’t have to travel. Factor in he was also the least experienced at the pro level and that didn’t seem fair or right.
3. In light of point 2, it seemed as if his promoter, Dan Goosen, had done a great job for him. But when the tournament was over, Ward sued Goosen, claiming that he didn’t promote him well. Given that Ward turned out to lack charisma and didn’t have a fan-friendly style, the accusation didn’t sound right. Goosen had always seemed like one of the “good guys” as far as promoters go. Unlike Arum and King, who were known scumbags. If I remember correctly, Ward sued Dan at least 3 times because nothing ever held up in court; not even the Muhammad Ali Act. Ward wound up getting James Prince involved. I’d never heard of him, but there were rumors that he had criminal ties. While all of this legal mess was going on, Ward didn’t fight and Goosen was publicly dying of cancer. Given that Ward claimed to be a Christian, and had the self-given nickname, Son of God, his actions were perceived as pretty vile. Whatever goodwill he had gained from the Super 6 victory, he completely lost in the court of public opinion.
4. His knock out of Chad Dawson at 168 continued his slide into resentment and irrelevance by the fans. Ward and Dawson were the 168 and 175 pound champs. Ward had a historic opportunity to be the champ at both weights simultaneously, even if he’d fought Dawson at a catchweight. What could be more fair than Dawson coming down and Andre going up 3.5lbs? Why Dawson agreed to fight at 168 is beyond me, but the fact that Ward took the fight seemed cowardly and opportunistic. 168 had already been cleaned out and beating Chad at 168 did nothing to for Ward’s career or boxing. And the fact that Ward, who is not a puncher, easily KOed Dawson, just confirmed that the fight never should have been at 168.
5. The Kovalev fights have been done to death, so I won’t rehash them. By the time they’d taken place, with the results from them, would just confirm one’s position on Ward; either he was an “old school” fighter and ATG who didn’t know how to lose, or he was a dirty fighter who never traveled and always had help from the judges and referees to make sure he didn’t lose.
I admit that I do not have all of the details of Ward’s innermost thoughts, lawsuits documents or the exact nature and details of his relationship with James Prince (neither does anyone else). However, based on what was revealed publicly I can see why some fans would refer to Ward as an a-hole.
What isn’t debatable is that he might be the only fighter considered a definite HOFer, arguably ATG, who when he retired undefeated at 32, nobody cared and he hasn’t been missed by boxing’s general population.

 

4 years?

Elite? There is nothing about Benavidez that is elite. He'd good, but thats it.