Andre Ward v Nathan Cleverly on Jul 30 @ Oakland

Jurgen is one of the most frustrating guys in the sport. No idea why he ducked Clev the first time round. He's prob better than he think he is himself but we've never seen him step up.

 

His career has been badly managed and he seems content to fight top 20 fighters and the Germans seem content to watch these fights.

But we have to keep in mind this is a country where David Hasslehoff is a platinum selling artist.

 

Bizarrely he's not as popular as many of the fake Germans are either. How the like Sturm draw numbers is beyond me.

 

he slipped 4 the stoppage, blatantly, the only guy who got clean dropped and motioned to ref to stop the fight was joe

 

No, it's not. Thread title should probably be changed. Braehmer-Cleverly isn't official just yet, but it doesn't look likely at all Ward-Cleverly will come off.

 

Cheers.