Andre Ward vs. Chad Dawson: Fools gold or The real jewellery?

Wards a good fighter, very good fighter. But Carl Froch is his only solid concrete win at SMW........

The rest of the guys, where part time at SMW...

 

What always happens before a big fight, i will convince myself that there is a issue! Thats how i get motivated. I am starting to really get pissed off with people's disrespect towards Chad Dawson.......

How do you know their has been beef in Dawson's training camp man..?

 

Techncially he is up there yes, and you are bang on about him tactically from your previous post. Where you are wrong tho is about Ward's concerns with regard to physical conditioning. Yes he did have the problem with his hand in the Froch fight but that doesn't cause a fighter to blow out, nor did Froch grind him down. I can think of a former fellow super middleweight who's career was plagued by hand problems and had high profile breaks during fights but he never got tired. And Ward was was definitely huffing in that fight come the end. He is actually extremely worried about it and that's why he is willing to risk 'Son of God' appearing in the same sentence as 'Conte'.

He should still be too good for Dawson wherever they fight. Dawson dislikes being unable to dictate the pace of a fight even more than Ward, so the only thing that's baffling is how Dawson has bent over backwards to all of Ward's demands for this to take place. They must have some re-match clause at 168/175 in place, but then again Dawson wouldn't be losing a belt at his normal weight and has the weight excuse if things go really tits up

 

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I am bothered everytime Virgil Hunter speaks, he is more mentally intimidating than Adam Booth. Booth of late has really let his guard down, and enjoys having banter during the build up to fights.

Hunter..? There's a real sadistic tone to his convictions.

I always remember the shiver he sent down my spine, during the build up to Ward vs Froch. I knew Ward was probably going win, but as per usual i was in the process of convincing myself and developing fight situations in my head..? Which was backing up my prediction of Froch winning.

But then i saw this video, and i knew Froch was going to lose.

I was bothered by the whole interview.

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Hunter and Ward will do whatever is necesary. Ward would not have taken part in the Super Six if he didn't have a guarantee that all his initial group stage fights would be in Oakland. If you cast your mind back to the initial Fight Camp 360 episodes, the fight venues were being thrashed out between the promoters and Ken Hershman of Showtime (now HBO which Ward-Dawson is on) was livid that Ward had leaked it out that Goossen had guaranteed that all of Ward's group stage fights would be in Oakland. Ward was the only fighter to have all of his group fights on home turf. Goossen played massive hard ball on that issue and if he hadn't got his way then Ward would not have participated in the tournament. And it was Ward who was insistent on that.

Ward then faced Abraham in the semi-final at Home Depot Center. This wasn't Oakland but importantly for Ward was still close to home in California. Then finally he was forced over to Atlantic City for the final against Froch, although this still took some haggling! Everything was seemingly settled but then Andre gets an incredibly mysterious and nasty cut from the inside of a headguard during training. This was apparently caught on film by the Fight Camp 360 crew but the footage shows very little of how it actually happened. The fight was then delayed for a further 2 months which most people thought was an excessive delay. But then Andre was fighting outside of the west coast for the first time in many many years and knew he was going to be tested after the fight. That's when impossible inner headguard cuts come in handy. I'm sure Virgil was flabbergasted

 

Just read some thing where Jermain Dawson (Chad's brother) said Chad isnt takin camp seriously and has lost his spark, Dawson is one of my favourite fighters and i thought he would win this fight but he'd need to be at 100%, if he comes in anythin under that he might take a beatin from Ward

 

Read the same story, seems a school of thought that Chad may have told his brother to do one, brother seems to imply that Chad should be looking after the family better etc etc, hard to say if sour grapes or indeed if Dawson is cutting corners. Guess we won't know until fight night.

 

Dawson & John Scully have still achieved the greater technical victories. Over Tarver and Hopkins, Ward has not fought anybody who is on his level in terms of boxing intellect. Tarver was in immense shape vs Dawson, visible immense shape. And trying to beat Hopkins is like trying to solve Rubex Cude and the worlds hardest cross word at the same time.

Ward has faced some good fighters, but he has faced no boxing genius's, Dawson has beat 2 boxing geniuses. In terms of ring generalship, and skills.

 

I know he didn't thats why i said Dawson & Scully.

The Tarver that faced Dawson would beat every oponent Ward has faced.

Hopkins could beat Froch now!