Andre Ward vs. Edison Miranda Odds

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  1. soxfan57

    soxfan57 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Who is the good bet?

    Edison Miranda: +260
    Andre Ward: -290
     
  2. therealdeal

    therealdeal Active Member Full Member

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    Ward. It won't be close. The odds should be higher...
     
  3. soxfan57

    soxfan57 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Really? Most people seem unsure whether ward is the real deal...What makes u so sure?
     
  4. cannon5974

    cannon5974 Member Full Member

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    Kenny Kost hurt Ward really bad, so I think Miranda could KO him. I think Miranda knocks him out. Ward may out box him for a little bit, but will get caught and knocked out.
     
  5. NickBarker

    NickBarker Damnum Absque Injuria Full Member

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    I definitely favor Ward, but I would take a shot on Miranda at +260.
     
  6. Brickhaus

    Brickhaus Packs the house Full Member

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    Ward takes it. Miranda has the puncher's chance, but his chin doesn't seem so bad that he'd get knocked out by one punch, and despite being a thunderous puncher, Miranda seems to lack the killer instinct to finish off a guy who he's hurt. To top it off, Miranda literally has no chance of winning the decision, since it's in Ward's hometown. I think it's a good bet for Ward up through about -400.
     
  7. therealdeal

    therealdeal Active Member Full Member

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    Well, first and foremost I think Miranda is done. But, I also think this is great matchmaking.

    Taking a slow straight ahead swing from the hills fighter who has suddenly developed chin problems and put him in with a quick fighter in his hometown? I think it is either an easy decision or a late stoppage.

    True, Andre Ward has not shown the best chin, but, one could argue that all those fights were at 160 and he hasn't shown any issues since he moved up to 168.
     
  8. soxfan57

    soxfan57 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I wouldn't say literally no chance. Oakland isn't Germany...Also, Miranda beat Allan Green by decision fwiw
     
  9. PH|LLA

    PH|LLA VIP Member Full Member

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    too many question marks. I'm backing ward but at -290 I'm not confident enough, and at +260 Miranda isn't really worth the shot. I'd say anything above +400 I'd be on Miranda, anything better than -180 I'd be on Ward

    btw where are you getting these odds
     
  10. therealdeal

    therealdeal Active Member Full Member

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    I don't think Andre Ward is going to be looking down at his shoes every 5 seconds and giving Miranda free shots on him in the process...
     
  11. Hermit

    Hermit Loyal Member banned

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    That is because most people are looking for this fight to tell them who Ward really is. We know Miranda. All losses came to top fighters. He decisioned Green. This is why most are waiting for the results of this fight.
     
  12. soxfan57

    soxfan57 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    pinnaclesports
     
  13. nickfoxx

    nickfoxx On The Nod Full Member

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    im usually a skeptic and tend to bet with dogs more than favorites, but i think i'll be laying the 3 to 1 (a little less -295) and taking ward in the fight, i think that's a good price because miranda has almost no chance (i.e., only a puncher's chance) to win this fight

    skills-wise, there is no comparison... size is another important issue... miranda is the smaller man, and has fought most of his major fights at middleweight (or at least below 168 )... ward won the gold medal as a 178 lber and moved down as a pro, and is used to being the larger more physically dominant man in the ring... in the center of the ring, it will be a sparring session... along the ropes, ward is under-rated because he has the ability to land very short and hurtful punches on the inside (see his last fight against buchanan) and he is also quite adept at tying up, not letting an opponent work... i don't think stamina will be an issue either

    i see almost no chance for miranda to win this fight other than that puncher's chance which i put at around 5%... therefore, ill gladly lay the 3 to 1
     
  14. Dominicano

    Dominicano Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Very interesting fight. I think ward boxes him to a ud.
     
  15. Hatesrats

    Hatesrats "I'm NOT Suprised..." Full Member

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    Like both, But I favor Ward to pull it off.
    (Possible Stoppage)