Andre Ward vs Gennady Golovkin: At 164(catchweight) or 168?

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  1. alexthegreatmc

    alexthegreatmc Sound logic and reason. You're welcome! Full Member

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    This is a ****ing stupid comment. :verysad
     
  2. chitownfightfan

    chitownfightfan Loyal Member Full Member

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    It's the only way I can cope with the absurd double standards.

    Cotto is treated like a god for beating Martinez who Murray already beat, and he drug him down to do it.
    Mayweather is treated like a god for beating Canelo and he drug him down.
    GGG BEGS TO BE DRUG DOWN AND HE GETS HATE.

    All from the same crowd. And it's not hard to identify their typical racial makeup. Sorry. It's all to easy.
     
  3. Stylez G.

    Stylez G. Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Golovkin is not Floyd. Ward said that after Floyd ****ed him off, Ward took it back a day later. What does Ward fighting at 160 years ago have to do with his fighting weight now? Golovkin didn't say he would fight Froch at 168, he said he would fight ANYONE at 168. He didn't try to fight at 168 years ago, he tried to do it RECENTLY. Let's at least try to make some sense here.
     
  4. Beatdaddy

    Beatdaddy Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I think the only time catch weights are appropriate are for two top fighters from different weight divisions to fight in a non-championship fight. Golovkin-Ward in a non-championship fight, it would be appropriate to meet at a catch weight between the divisions. Now if Ward's belt is on the line, it should be at 168, or if GGG's belts are on the line, it should be at 160. I disagree with catch weight fights for titles in a division. I would agree with Kovalev-Ward at 171.5 or whatever, if no belts were on the line, and Golovkin-Ward at 164, if no belts were on the line. I think there is no issue with that. Since Golovkin does bring in higher TV ratings and ticket sales, he'd have an edge on the negotiating leverage. It would be his right to try to get a catch weight, IF Ward's belt wasn't on the line. Of course everything is negotiable and Ward's team could always offer Golovkin more of the money pool to get the fight up to 168. I'd honestly like to see the fight at 168 for Ward's belt, so I voted 168. I'd favor Ward in that fight, but GGG's stock would go through the roof if he pulled off the upset.
     
  5. QuadrupleG

    QuadrupleG MAZAFAKA Full Member

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    If Ward comes up with money, he can dictate terms. He wasn't ashamed dragging Dawson down and refusing to do ANY catchweight.
     
  6. dinovelvet

    dinovelvet Antifanboi Full Member

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    :lol::lol::lol:
     
  7. dinovelvet

    dinovelvet Antifanboi Full Member

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    Dawson had the balzz to drop down and challenge Ward.

    GGG don't have the gonads to not drain himself for MW and face Ward at the same weight he come in at for his 160 bouts
     
  8. Symphenyceo

    Symphenyceo Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Clown behavior.
     
  9. Cisco Route

    Cisco Route He Who Says Nay banned

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    I see the GolovIdiots have gone full on re****.

    Lol..
     
  10. splatter69

    splatter69 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    **** catchweights.

    Unless both parties agree legitimately and it's not just to get an unfair advantage. and NEVER a title on the line.

    This example here with GGG and Ward for example. If ward can still make 168 then GGG should move up to take the fight ( when he is ready... I respect that he wants to unify ).

    The only way this fight could be at a catch weight is if GGG literally cannot make it to 168 and by some miracle Ward could meet him at 164 and both were ok with it. and no title of course bragging rights only

    Silly though since GGG can make 168 so ....

    F**K catch weights
     
  11. plank46

    plank46 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    there should be no fights at catchweights.
     
  12. QuadrupleG

    QuadrupleG MAZAFAKA Full Member

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    ... and what weight does Ward rehydrates to ? 180+ ? So, he has 10 pounds weight advantage.

    Speaking about ballz, Andre's are tiny. No way he takes Kovalev or Beterbiev fight.
     
  13. Capt

    Capt Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Agreed.
     
  14. Capt

    Capt Boxing Addict Full Member

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    He'll take on Kovalev, he can't fight Beterbiev because he's signed with Haymon.
     
  15. Rumsfeld

    Rumsfeld Moderator Staff Member

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    Everyone saying he should face Kovalev must have missed Duva's recent optimism about that one taking place some time next year. Unless I've missed a Duva retraction since then?

    :think