Andre Ward vs Gennady Golovkin: At 164(catchweight) or 168?

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  1. Matt in a hat

    Matt in a hat Well-Known Member Full Member

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    When they lose to PBC fighters.:yep
     
  2. Archie_Moore

    Archie_Moore ALL TIME KO KING Full Member

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    Lol... So baseless that you have nothing to backup your claim, yet many many many about your dislike for certain fighters, who all seem to be white. Coincidence... I understand MVC.
     
  3. MVC!

    MVC! The Best Ever Full Member

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    Nothing? It's in past threads, just look for them. It's not like I can hide them or delete the threads. It's all there in the archives.

    If you have any evidence of me being racist, then bring it to my attention.

    If you don't, then don't make baseless claims.

    I already said, it may seem like I'm "racist" because I support fighters like (Floyd, Deontay, Ward, 3 fighters generally not liked on this forum and coincidentally black) but it's nowhere near the truth :nod.

    There are black fighters that I dislike, white fighters I dislike, Asian fighters that I dislike. Race has nothing to do with it.
     
  4. Archie_Moore

    Archie_Moore ALL TIME KO KING Full Member

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    I respect all those fighters you mentioned, yet you defend all of them and the cherry picking fighters they have done throughout there career yet are the first to question and disregard "other" fighters that do the Exact. Same. Thing.
     
  5. MVC!

    MVC! The Best Ever Full Member

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    Wrong. I do that with most fighters. I'm just not as biased as everyone else and try to tone down their exaggerations.

    People usually magnify "cherry picking" when it comes to these fighters that people tend to hate, I just try to be objective and bring it to peoples' attentions.
     
  6. Archie_Moore

    Archie_Moore ALL TIME KO KING Full Member

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    So you do posts of Wilder cherry picking, being a touch "chinny" and all that... No you don't... So guess what, you're exactly like all the others that are bias and change what is okay as long as it's a fighter they like.
     
  7. MVC!

    MVC! The Best Ever Full Member

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    ?? what?

    I like Deontay, he's one of my favourites.

    People called him out on cherry picking Molina, I disagreed with them!!!

    Molina isn't as bad as people make him out to be and he showed that, he fought valiantly with lots of heart and managed to even stun Deontay.
     
  8. Archie_Moore

    Archie_Moore ALL TIME KO KING Full Member

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    Yes he is that bad, as I'm wondering if he'll do it again and pick a fighter who doesn't deserve a match... Molina had no business even making it as far as he did, let alone hurting Wilder bad.

    I enjoy watching Wilder fight, he's exciting... But mark this post... He steps up and he'll be in trouble, he's too wild and his chin ain't the best... For the **** you talk about Kovalev chin, your defense of Wilder is pretty funny.
     
  9. Cafe

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    That doesn't make him a good opponent, if Rod Salka, Paul Smith or Osumanu Adama managed to give their respective opponents (GGG, Ward and Garcia) problems in their fights that wouldn't suddenly make them good.

    Probably means that the other fighters were just overrated.
     
  10. MVC!

    MVC! The Best Ever Full Member

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    Molina isn't a top level fighter but he's criminally underrated and brought his A-game on the day of the fight. He's better than people give him credit for and he showed it to a T.

    He'll beat Povetkin, mark my words. :yep

    Well, it works both ways doesn't it. People talk about Wilder's chin but gives Kovalev passes on his own mandible. Hilarious. Deontay has a very good chin and proved it against Stiverne. He was hit with hard hard shots against him that fight and he took them easily.

    :lol:
     
  11. MVC!

    MVC! The Best Ever Full Member

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    They're not the best, but Molina isn't a bum, and he showed that.

    I've been adamant about this for quite some time. He actually hurt Arreola before getting stopped.

    He could have actually won that fight :yep
     
  12. Archie_Moore

    Archie_Moore ALL TIME KO KING Full Member

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    I don't give Kovalev a pass on his chin, nor will you find a post that gives him a pass... But he is one of my favorite fighters and deserves for fighting all comers... That more important to me, then record.

    Molina didn't bring his A game that night, Wilder just lacks technical ability that is required to be successful consistently at the top level.
     
  13. MVC!

    MVC! The Best Ever Full Member

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    Kovalev never ducked anyone, I never said he did. Except for ducking the purse bids against Stevenson, TWICE. Even you can't deny that because it's the truth.

    Just because I don't like Kovalev doesn't mean I don't like Russian fighters. :lol:

    There's no need to make baseless accusations calling me racist because I dislike Kovalev. I stated the reasons why I'm not that fond of him. And it has NOTHING to do with race. If you can't accept that, then I don't know what to tell you because I've been very truthful in this entire argument. If you still can't accept it, then this conversation should come to an end. Because we'll just keep going in circles without any end in sight. :yep

    And Molina did bring his A-game in that fight, he actually fought really well and showed great heart. He was also cutting off the ring at times really well and nailed Deontay with that precise left hook.
     
  14. Cafe

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    Ok so just watched the fight, he buzzed Arreola (we're not even talking Wlad here - ARREOLA) for like 5 seconds before getting knocked out in one punch in the first round, that's what we're holding on to here lol. Let's face it, Wilder struggled with a really sub par opponent.
     
  15. MVC!

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    Certainly not the best, but certainly not the worst guy he could have picked. People make him out to be some bum who is top 100. :lol::patsch

    He actually caught him with a huge shot, Molina can crack, that's what we DO know.