Andre Ward vs Gennady Golovkin

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  1. Ward

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  2. GGG

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  1. m.s.

    m.s. Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Maybe with the Adylide Byrde triplets as the judges.
     
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    m.s. Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    True, thought the ppv would be huge.
     
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    dinovelvet Antifanboi Full Member

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    This still does not explain how Golovkin would have been the A sider so its obvious you don't understand the meaning of the term A side.

    The side that draws up the contracts and the side that pays the other side is the A side. . That was team Ward. Even though all those PPVs underperformed , Ward was paid FAR more than GGG was as he had the bigger financial backing.
    It was Ward who was offering GGG a fair and honest 50-50 split in revenue that was generated by his backers.
    Ward was also the 168 WBA Champion at the time while GGG would have been a belt less challenger.. GGG was the B- SIDE.

    GGGs popularity was exposed when the rematch with Canelo was called off. At that point he was the height of his popularity. If he was a massive draw he would have stayed in the T mobile arena on PPV , but he had to be downgraded to the sub-hub centre on regular HBO instead. . Worse of all they had to give the 20 buck tickets away for free because nobody was buying them.
    So don't fool yourself that GGG was this massive draw just because he fought Canelo.. Canelo makes everybody he fights a massive draw.

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    :lol: Absurd. Since when did Ward ever pay anybody out? Brant got 30k ffs.

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    Meanwhile, in real life as opposed to Dino's delusions:

    "Golovkin's purse for the fight was $1 million and Martirosyan earned a smaller amount of $225,000.[218][219][220] The fight averaged 1,249,000 viewers and peaked at 1,361,000 viewers, making most-watched boxing match on cable television in 2018.[221]"

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gennady_Golovkin

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  5. Pimp C

    Pimp C Too Much Motion Full Member

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    You must have started to watch boxing this year, you were wrong about Chenko and I was right period.

    Wade is the type of bum that GGG loved to feast on and drove his overzealous dumbass fans wild like he was doing something special. A steady diet of cans is the reason why I knew he wouldn't beat Ward or Canelo because he had no big fight and elite level comp experience and I was proven right. Ward wanted all the smoke he has put himself out there GGG hasn't. He'd rather take step aside money and stay in a dead division than take on ward. Word on the street is that GGG still runs off and hides in the bathroom anytime Ward's name is mentioned.

    GGG didn't want Ward his track record of taking the path of least resistance proves it. Did he move up in weight? No! Did he fight a steady line of bums? Yes! Was his best win back then Marin Murray a guy who never even won a title. Yes! Mean while Ward was taking on the best in the world in the Super 6 as an underdog and making it look easy. It's easy to see who wanted who in this.

    It's common sense. It would be like if Taylor and Crawford fought at 147. Crawford is not a big draw himself but you'd be a damn fool to think Taylor wouldn't be getting a career high payday to fight Crawford. Not only that it would be a big fight for boxing that fans would want to see. Just like Ward-GGG at 168 would have been. The only people who don't want it are the people who thinks their guy will lose, just like in the case of GGG fans when it comes to facing Ward. It's easy to expose these types because they talk more about why the fight shouldn't happen instead of about why it should.

    Who the ****? What PPV records did GGG smash? To say 50/50 split wasn't fair against a better and more accomplished guy in Ward is ridiculous. Of course a 50/50 split was fair and only a fanboi like you would say it wasn't. GGG had no proven track record of being a big draw back then. He as no cash cow, hell his PPV with Lemieux bombed. You're just trying to make excuses for him and try and justify the duck. A 50/50 split was fine back then, you just didn't want to see the fight like most GGG fans.

    You didn't want to see the fight. You damn well you didn't, your excuses about draws is proof.

    Ward proved you wrong he stopped Kovalev a guy you said would KHTFO, so what do you know? GGG is too slow and basic to beat Ward. He gets outboxed and beat up.

    Hopkins>GGG that can't be refuted, that video you posted doesn't change that fact.:deal:
     
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    Ward wanted all the smoke from the guy who said 168-154 can get it. GGG was trying to call out everyone like he was the truth and Ward G checked him and GGG tucked his tail and said no for you we want 164. ****ing hilarious how Ward punked GGG.
     
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    The A side clown in prizefighting is clown who does have better prom and manager, brings in more money than B side away corner lad.
    Ward never was huge seller even by Vegas measure because he was VERY BORING TO WATCH.
     
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    Whatever you said must be low-IQ stuff, it's irrefutable.
    Nah. But GGG got Wade out of there early whereas Hopkins laboured to get the useless Hakkar to call it a night.
    Meanwhile in real life Ward refused to fight Golovkin. Ward always had some excuse. Doe mah shoulder! Mah promoter! Only guys that simp for Droopy Dog believe that he was actually serious about facing GGG.
    You've been asked to provide figures but you couldn't. You failed. I provided the figures, and the figures prove that in real life GGG is the guy that brings the viewers and Ward is the guy that struggles to fill the local venue.
    A 50/50 split was laughable and it was Ward's way of pricing himself out of the fight because he didn't want the action. He knew Golovkin was going to leave him bleeding on the sidewalk. When GGG told Canelo 50-50 Canelo said no, and they came back with a counteroffer. Eventually they got an acceptable split. Ward just ran for the hills, trailing droppings all the way.
    Ol Pimple trying to read minds now. :lol: I bet he gets into his girlfriends mind too, when she puts the toiletpaper on the wrong way :abduct:
    Kovalev is a boxer, he didn't train for MMA.
    Oh but it can be refuted and I have. Hopkins barely got a draw against Mercado. Mercado is the sort of guy that you'd cry big fat tears about if Golovkin fought him.
     
  9. m.s.

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    So your saying all this so we forget the reason for the fight being postponed was the cash cow is a cheat?
     
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    ...been juicin, & cherry pickin....With the exception of BJS fight, which to me was one Canelos best performance & quite rightly should applauded for that fight...BJS is no bum & Canelo showed class...
     
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    Lil G did not want this.
     
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    Ward puts on a master boxing class on GGG. It's a reason GGG ducked Ward! He wanted no parts of Ward.