Andre Ward vs Harry Greb

Discussion in 'Classic Boxing Forum' started by MarkusFlorez99, Aug 27, 2021.


Who wins and how

Poll closed May 27, 2024.
  1. Andre Ward UD

    9 vote(s)
    27.3%
  2. Andre Ward KO/TKO

    5 vote(s)
    15.2%
  3. Harry Greb UD

    16 vote(s)
    48.5%
  4. Harry Greb KO/TKO

    1 vote(s)
    3.0%
  5. Let me see the polls

    2 vote(s)
    6.1%
  1. 70sFan865

    70sFan865 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    How about all the other great fighters he beat? Did they also have off nights? Despite the fact that Greb's schedule was far tougher than any of them?
     
  2. 70sFan865

    70sFan865 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    1. How could you know that Greb had no defense? He was almost never stopped in a long, tough career - in some cases when he wasn't healthy anymore.

    2. Why Tunney struggled so much against someone with abysmal technique and no defense? You just said that Tunney looks good, then why Greb was such a tough matchup for him if he was so bad?
     
  3. MarkusFlorez99

    MarkusFlorez99 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I meant generally, the competition imo was poor compared to ATGs like Ward or Hopkins or Charles. and Greb was a dirty relentless pressure fighter with high workrate that loved to smother based on articles written on him. That's could pose trouble for somebody like Gene Tunney even if the style was sloppy, and Tunney won more times than not anyway.

    Regardless i just think Ward is significantly more refined than Tunney based on what i see
     
  4. cuchulain

    cuchulain Loyal Member Full Member

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    :shocked:

    :thinking:
     
  5. MarkusFlorez99

    MarkusFlorez99 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Yes, watching both fight i find ward to be more polished. Just my opinion
     
  6. BCS8

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    Man, I think Tunney looks great on film and that Ward's herky jerky style not so much. :nusenuse: I'll grant that Ward has a high ring IQ and good grit but I'm not sure that would be enough for me to pick him over Tunney let alone Greb.
     
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  7. Reinhardt

    Reinhardt Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Greb fought more in one year than Ward fought in his whole career so poor Tunney fighting 6 times in 5 months ain't a problem
     
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  8. 70sFan865

    70sFan865 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Are you sure you're not talking about camera work? I don't think you'd say that had Ward fought in the 1920s or 1930s. His style is far from orthodox refined boxing.
     
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  9. dinovelvet

    dinovelvet Antifanboi Full Member

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    Tunney proved he was better than Harry Greb.

    Greb is too wild and primitive to beat somebody like Ward. He would be very confused by Wards footwork and inside game.

    Id give Tunney a better chance at beating Ward
     
  10. 70sFan865

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    Greb confused by anyone's inside game, you made me laugh :D :D :D
     
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  11. BitPlayerVesti

    BitPlayerVesti Boxing Drunkie Full Member

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    I guess Wlad was worse than Wardley, since he did that multiple times against Pulev.
     
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  12. dinovelvet

    dinovelvet Antifanboi Full Member

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    Wlad broke a lot of rules against Pulev. The spongy illegal canvas for example but don't remember his two feet ever leaving the canvas at the same time.
    He did however leap forward with a double handed fist pumps number of times.

    See here:
    https://www.ringtv.com/wp-content/u...oto-by-joern-pollex_bongarts-getty-images.jpg

    So agree that Wlads style was primitive and dirty like Kid Norfolks
     
  13. 70sFan865

    70sFan865 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    So primitive that he was the best fighter in the world in the 21st century.
     
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  14. dinovelvet

    dinovelvet Antifanboi Full Member

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    Thats a falsity
     
  15. 70sFan865

    70sFan865 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    It's not though, he's clearly the best HW in the last 20 years.
     
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