Andre Ward vs James Toney at 168lbs

Ward vs Kovalev Media Scores
61 TOTAL SCORES POLLED FROM MEDIA [1]

44 Scores for KOVALEV = 72%
16 Scores for WARD = 26%
1 Score for a DRAW = 1%

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• Allan Fox (Boxingnews24): 117-110 Kovalev
• Doug Fischer (Ring Magazine): 117-110 Kovalev
• Andrew Harrison (Boxing Monthly): 117-111 Kovalev
• Harold Lederman (HBO): 116-111 Kovalev
• Michael Montero (Montero On Boxing): 116-111 Kovalev
• Tim Dahlberg (AP): 116-111 Kovalev
• Shaun Brown (TalkingBoxing.uk): 115-112 Kovalev
• Chris Mannix (Yahoo Sports): 115-112 Kovalev
• Dan Rafael (ESPN): 115-112 Kovalev
• Cliff Rold (*******): 115-112 Kovalev
• Lance Pugmire (LA Times): 115-112 Kovalev
• Victor M Salazar (*******): 115-112 Kovalev
• Scott Christ (BadLeftHook): 115-112 Kovalev
• Gareth A Davies (The Telegraph): 115-112 Kovalev
• Kevin McRae (Bleacher Report): 115-112 Kovalev
• Steve Zemach (FoxSports640): 115-112 Kovalev
• Jorge Hernandez (SW Fight): 115-112 Kovalev
• Tim Starks (Queensberry Rules): 115-112 Kovalev
• The Guardian Online: 115-112 Kovalev
• Fraser Coffeen (Bloody Elbow): 115-112 Kovalev
• Steve Kim (UCN Live): 115-112 Kovalev
• Bokser.org: 115-112 Kovalev
• FightersRated: 115-112 Kovalev
• Heavy Bag Boxing: 115-112 Kovalev
• Queensberry Rules: 115-112 Kovalev
• Sam Sheppard (Next Big Pod): 115-112 Kovalev
• Ron Borges (Boston Herald): 116-114 Kovalev
• Boxhard Podcast: 115-113 Kovalev
• Ryan Burton (*******): 115-113 Kovalev
• Bernardo Osuna (ESPN Deportes): 115-113 Kovalev
• Andy Paterson (Boxing Asylum): 114-113 Kovalev
• Daniel Vano (******): 114-113 Kovalev
• Daniel Attias (AUSboxing): 114-113 Kovalev
• Beau Denison (The Boxing Truth): 114-113 Kovalev
• Boxing Monthly Online: 114-113 Kovalev
• Ben Weismann (BoxingAsylum): 114-113 Kovalev
• G. Leon (Boxtalk): 114-113 Kovalev
• Bob Velin (USA Today): 114-113 Kovalev
• Kieran Mulvaney (HBO): 114-113 Kovalev
• Eric Raskin (HBO): 114-113 Kovalev
• Stephen A Smith (ESPN): 114-113 Kovalev
• John Angus MacDonald (Boxing Monthly): 114-113 Kovalev
• Alex Morris (Next Big Pod): 114-113 Kovalev
• Danny Winterbottom (Boxing Monthly): 114-113 Kovalev
• Tony Bellew (Sky Sports): 114-114 DRAW
• *****: 114-113 Ward
• Kevin Iole (Yahoo Sports): 114-113 Ward
• Wolfgang Schiffbauer (German Freelancer): 114-113 Ward
• Ramon Aranda (3MoreRounds): 114-113 Ward
• Brian Campbell (ESPN): 114-113 Ward
• Mike Coppinger (USA Today): 114-113 Ward
• New York Post Online: 114-113 Ward
• LA Times Online: 114-113 Ward
• Mark Butcher (Boxing Monthly): 114-113 Ward
• Tom Gray (Ring Magazine): 116-115 Ward
• Mark Ortega (Freelance): 115-112 Ward
• Danny Richardson (Script Media): 115-112 Ward
• Adam Abramowitz (Saturday Night Boxing): 115-112 Ward
• Paul Smith Jnr (Sky Sports): 116-113 Ward
• Tom Craze (BadLeftHook): 116-111 Ward
• Ryan O'Hara (BTG): 114-113 Ward

 

I've been through this already. 114-113 was the third most common score.

You didn't used to post on The Lawn, did you?

 

Nahhh

 

He did something of note at cruiser and heavy.Toney beats Kovalev

 

In these types of matchups you have to take the best version of both fighters and at their best Toney is better than Ward in every facet of boxing and he did not have a low work rate at 168

 

Ah yes the nostalgia glasses are on tight today aren’t they.

That doesn't mean much in this context. For one Kovalev and Toneys cruiser and heavy opponents have completely different styles. Kovalev isn't going to agressivly fight a counterpuncher like Toney, much like Jirov, Holyfield, and Peter did. He will stick a jab in Toneys face and keep the range and movement. A fatter Toney at light heavyweight and cruiserweight will certainly struggle with this, just like he did with Mike McCallum at the lower weights.

Toney handled Jirovs pressure so he shouldnt have problems with pressure tactics from a mediocre like Dave Tiberi at the lower weights right ? Thats the logic you're going with.

 

I don't know if you ever boxed but, if you did, I'll bet you were in the superfly division.

 

I’m one of the minority who went with ward
. I think he could have taken a decision over Toney but if I’m wrong I’m wrong

 

Are you comparing Kovalev's boxing ablility with that one of the great Mc Callum?
I hope not.

Kovalev never was a great mover or boxer. He is a puncher. Punchers do not trouble Toney much. Would it be an easy fight for Toney? No, but I would make him the favourite if he shows up in shape.

 

Best version of Toney wins by UD anything less, Ward UD.

 

You probably was competing in the strawweight division yourself , that Sounds about right

 

As I say, I don't know if you ever boxed but, if you did, I bet you didn't get hit much.

I bet all those punches went way over your head.

 

Are you serious right now ? Kovalev was a boxer puncher and could absolutely use his feet and stick behind a jab if needed be and he was good at it too

Seems as though the classic forum doesn't even watch modern fighters

 

Kovalev, to date, has never even been down on all cards when a fight ended.

He’s gone Euro style against arguably all of his toughest opponents.

Toney either would beat him like Nunn or lose a decision.

 

You mean like how did against Canelo? We all knew what happened.

Toney is the more skilled boxer of the two. Kovalev is not much of a mover anyway. Better boxers have fought Toney and have been defeated.