why are you talking about yourself? dont put yourself down, everyone else does that enough 4 u. well if he had a time machine and fought them before Joe then they would be Ward leftovers. Do you expect Ward to trasvel in time to do that? IDIOT if you do. Ward has fought far more than them, he has fought the calzaghe ducks too. bu you wouldtn notice that, its all about one fighter , Kessler to you because hes one of the few good ones joe faced. Veit it up.
herol and bailey call a truce regarding this your both quality poster just aint seeing eye to eye regaurding joe
Thanks Ash, but Herol talking time machines Time machines . If he could he would atsch. Cant believe you have come out with something so daft to get yourself out of the corner you have painted yourself into . Nobody brought up time machines but you. That must be an idiot. Yeah Ward would have gone for them all like he did Bute. What ducks are you going on about? This will be good, cant wait for this one
Its YOUR point about leftovers. Leftovers are dictated by who fights them first, which is EXACTLTY and ENTIRELY your point. I would never use that point myself, and no one else on this forum has except you alone. Since your point failed, deal with it. And you should be the last person laughing at your own failed arguments, but if you must, then do so.
Neither guy has beaten great competition, but Andre's is far better than that bum Calzaghe. Calzaghe NEVER beat an elite boxer near their prime (Kessler is B level, not elite) and lost to a 43 year old geezer but got a gift from the judges. His work rate is meaningless because it only works against bums. Andre would school Calzaghe
So Ward didnt fight fighters Calzaghe had already beaten which is what you base your high assessment on Got it atsch
And??? Calzaghe beat Bika better than Ward. Also you are comparing faded end of career, last fight at the weight Calzaghe beating prime Kessler to prime Ward beating faded, not very active, unwell, double vision suffering Kessler who hadnt beaten a top SMW for 3 years prior. Still you didnt answer the question you copied
Ward Stopped Kessler. Joe couldn't. End of story. Excues don't cut it. The closest guy to Ward on Joes record was Hop. And if he had the youthful vigor of Ward he would of beaten Joe. He almost did it as a tired old man for goodness sake. Logic states Ward shuts down Joe.