andre ward vs joe calzaghe

With all due respect Ward would have to travel to sell out this fight.

Even with him being in Creed he still wasn't selling out venues back in Oakland.

And we all know Ward doesn't own a passport.

 

Ward was born in the wrong country. Anywhere outside the United States, Ward will be a national treasure.

 

Ward has fought in Saint Lucia and Cayman Islands. He does have a passport.

 

we have to go with what we got. he killed bums for many years but at34 was good enough to challenge and win a major title in style.

so then he was 34 for lacy, and 36 for the LHW fortysomethings.
thats hardly a difference much. i think the difference was that serious mandatory challenges kept coming up now he had kesslers belts, which threatened his zero losses. He knew that an uninjured kessler would batter him. He knew that mandatory froch might well ko him. Thats two elites back to back. He had to run back to facing what he thought were weaklings.

Furthermore, the blame is solely calzaghes, it was him who waited till the others looked like they were safe to get in the ring with, they didnt wait for him to age at all.

If he wanted to fight them earlier he could have fought them or someone with a similar name value, but he chose not to. If a man chooses to do something, the fault is with him.

 

Calslappy by a 1000 bee stings. The billy goat gets wrecked.

 

...a washed up Bernard Hopkins...who was widely recognized as the best Light Heavyweight in the world prior to the fight and rated in the top 5 PFP (only one place below Calzaghe), who utterly humiliated the Middleweight King in his very next fight, and was still competing at the highest level 6 years later, beating world level opposition like Pascal, Cloud and Shumenov.

Seriously, I have never understood why people **** on Bernard Hopkins when they want to criticise Joe Calzaghe.

 

joe did well to reach an alltime career best achievement of beating kessler at 35, but ward beat him ten years younger as his first routine, easy title fight.

joe did well to challenge for his first major title at age 34, but ward eclipsed that again, almost 10 years younger.

The difference between these two boxers is like leagues.

 

yes bernard was still world class.

joes life and death scrape with an admittedly past it, no longer elite, but still world class hopkins underlined that joe was world class too.


The only waver I would add is that Joe probably thought hopkins, being almost 43, was washed up and easy to beat on gass alone now, which is the reason why he fought him now. He got the scared shytless by his mistake, he honestly thought he'd messed up the way hopkins tore him up early on whilst he had gass.

 

Ward by a lot of points.

 

Calzaghe would dismantle Ward.

It would be ugly. And I don't mean it would be an ugly fight to watch. It would be ugly for Ward.

 

Calzaghe

 

Whether you prefer Ward's technical skills and fundamentals because your more of a purist fan like myself, or you prefer Calzaghe's for his awkward style, finding different angles with a higher work rate, we can all conceded that despite contrasting in style, a quality they both shared was consistency. They clearly showed that they were a level above their opposition at the time they faced them and we're both once in a generation fighters.

Calzaghe gives the judges more of a reason to give him the round and boasts a much greater work rate, so for me he is the only fighter I can conceivably predict that 'COULD' although very unlikely, dominate this fight in a 117-111 kind of manner, which is why I favour Calzaghe ever so slightly.

 

what you are saying applies to ward perhaps, with the exception of Krusher I.

But no with joe, he stepped up three times kessler, reid and hopkins, perhap lacy. its just ludicrous to say he shoed he was a level above them all. only in one of those fights did he show he was a level above the other guy, with the awful champ lacy.

vs kessler he was losing till kessler became one handed

vs reid, arguably a draw or loss

vs hopkins, clearly losing till the old man gassed and even then scraped a win.

What you can say is that in their similar opposition, ward was a level above calzaghe, against bika and kessler.

 

Calzaghe wins. It's fairly obvious.

 

Ward decisions him