Andre Ward vs. Kelly Pavlik at middleweight or super middlweight. Who wins?

I don't know. Between you and "Jack ****" I have to believe a terrorist released some 'dumb' on the English population today. :think

 

I must say Hermit you get funnier everyday

but seriously if Ward beats Kessler he certainly beats Pavlik, im not hating by the way, i just feel that Ward holds most of the aces in this fight.

 

Get ****ing real :rofl Ward would dominate Pavlik, as most fighters would.

 

ward all day

 

I died laughing at that.

 

I go much slower in evaluations. Until Kelly makes the commitment to move up I'm not making too many predictions. Body punching takes away legs. It his harder to move the body even before the legs are gone. Not saying Kelly could get to his body but we don't know what he will be like at 168. I've said before, he showed up at this camp at a solid 185 with more snap on his punches than ever. He added upper body muscle since Espino. It looks like he makes the step sooner rather than later. I think Sturm and Williams doesn't happen and he knows it so he added the muscle looking forward till Bute. Just my guess.

 

Ward wont be there to be hit with body punches, Pavlik has a genuine chance against quite a few Supermiddles but Ward is not on that list.

 

All this talk of how great Ward is seems to be based on one win, and a ****-load of speculation. I need to see some tape of Kessler doing the following:

Working a triple left hook from outside to the head and body.

Throwing a lead right-left hook-left uppercut combination.

Spinning a short over hand right around into an uppercut.

Spinning a short left hook around into a perfectly placed left upper cut.

Beating Jermain Taylor or his equal in a jabbing contest.

Tapping with a right hand in order to trick his opponent into moving into a left hook.

Turning a jab into a hook a milli-second before it lands.

Not cowering down like a frightened school girl when he is losing a fight.

I named 8 things. Show me video of Kessler doing any 5 of them, and I'll believe he is a better fighter than Pavlik.

 

:rofl

 

Nor any of these guys!!!!!!


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Pav is going to wait until the super 6 all beat each other up, and then he'll try to make a fight one of those guys. @!#$@!#$!! fraud lol...

 

Guys, count 1, and then say 2, and that is all Pav has... Left, right...left, right lol... PAv has no boxing skills, and this clown brags as if Pav is Ali lol...