Andre Ward vs Mikkel Kessler Round 6 and 7. Straight Schooling!

One wonders whether Mikkel Kessler really deserves loony haters like some of the ones in this thread.

A commensurate gentleman ... who has a deeper resume than anyone else at SMS.. who has always fought cleanly with respect for the noble art and who still only ever lost two fights .. to ward and calzaghe. Never KOed or lost a shutout in those two despite fighting away in both and even getting rounds despite hostile judges and crowd.

I wonder what Mikkel feels and thinks if he reads this thread.

 

Carl Froch deserves more respect for this win than disrespect:-

Is you going to deny that?

Froch came from behind and knocked out the man in one of the greatest come from behind KO wins in recent history.

Also adding a few more facts:-

1. JT was favorite
2. It was Carl Froch's first title defense
3. It happend in JT's country, the USA
4. Jermain Taylor was #5 ranked WBC contender

The point: Carl Froch deserves more respect that disrespect for the Carl Froch TKO11 Jermain Taylor

Only haters will deny the man his respect.

Andre Ward hasnt travelled out of his country to do a title defense, Carl Froch came out of his comfort zone and put it on the opponent.

Listen to what Dirrell was saying at the faceoff:-

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1. Dirrell says "your scared, hes scared, he got to be scared"
- Dirrell was the more scared of the two.

2. Dirrell was trying to get jiggy with the opponent and have a dance
- Thats a ****** move to pull

3. Dirrell was inching his face closer and closer to Froch's lips
- Another ****** move to pull

4. Dirrell made promises
- And fought like a scared child.

5. When his promoter came in between the two he started using abusive language.
- Another ***** move.

That is just the face off, when you watch the fight:-

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Dirrell wants to go on his knees, wants to hug, and wants to run away throughout the fight.

You got the Froch vs AA prediction wrong didnt you, it happens dont mean it was because havent seen enough boxing. Go and learn that **** son.

 

I watched the Nottingham fight and can't see where Froch won any of the early rds between 1-8.
Somebody please post the Froch highlights.

 

Yeah, the gameplan was so great that he lost.

If Andre Dirrell wanted to win, he should have taken a page out of Bernard Hopkins book. It is a no brainer to realise that Dirrell needed to be more offensive minded, not just dance away and throw occasional counter punshes.

 

You dont even write "Nottingham" or "England". Do you suggests that Dirrell would have been robbed at any location within Europe? Do you have a scorecard for Dirrell vs Froch, with a round by round analyze by the way? If you have, I'd like to see it.

To me, Froch vs Dirrell mirrors Calzaghe vs Hopkins to a certain extent. In both cases we have one offensive volume puncher, and one defensive minded counter puncher who can be said to land the cleaner shots. The controversy around both fights are simillar, with The Cleaner Work Squad going at it here on ESB like in a frenzy. My point is that even in USA, dance away, hold, and land a counter every now and then is a gameplan that easily goes down the toilet. What it boiles down to, is that Dirrell seemed to have the tools to get the win. But he bottled it because his gameplan was ****.

Saying that Froch would have been DQ is a dumb argument and it would have been better for the debate if you left it out. It smells of ESB-trolling. If you watch boxing as much as you say, you know very well that the ref only plays the DQ card in extreme cases, because they dont want to kill the event. It takes Miranda hitting the opponent in the nutters over and over again, or AA taking a full swing at a sitting opponent. Frustration acts or rubbit punches wont to.

 

Dirrell not only hit Froch a lot more often, he hit him harder. The only fighter buzzed in that fight was Froch. It was a robbery. I like Froch, but it was.

 

This!

 

The comparasion only aimed at the gameplan. Thats why I wrote to a "certain extent". I realise Froch vs Dirrell was more controversial.

Saying "high possibility" with a "legit ref" is a bit more balanced then "most likely". I can see Froch recieving a warning or point deduction in the states. A DQ would have surprised me heavily. So I still think you are wrong, but will just leave it at that.

If I ever can be arsed to try to score Froch vs Dirrell a second time I will make a comparasion with your scorecard and perhaps get back to you. But several down to earth posters agreed that Dirrell took it, so it would probably be a waste of time.

 

:good You give Froch credit where its due, fair enough.

I have told you before, I had Dirrell winning a close decision but I wasnt impressed by his *** moves. I wasnt impressed on him calling Froch scared and then fighting scared himself, him going on his knees and hugging at every chance and not saying No homo afterwards was disgraceful. Especially as the fight went longer the more *** Dirrell turned out.

My point here was Froch deserves his props for going into the oppositions backyard and so often. He suffered a fair bit when he went to copenhagen and didnt have the knock down in his favor with Tillemann giving Kessler about 11 rounds.

Ward aint showed that yet, he aint left his comfort zone (in the pro game).

Dont compare the two, Mayweather slowed his opponent down boxing of the backfoot and controlling range.

Dirrell didnt want to engage and stand his ground.

Dirrell showed that he can hurt Froch, and he could have done alot better if he just committed himself and fight alot closer to Froch instead of being too far away.

Froch wanted to fight, Dirrell didnt. There was little chance Froch was going to win boxing against a faster Dirrell and I think he did the right thing by bullying the faster younger more atheletically gifted fighter in Dirrell.

Dirrell didnt fight like the challenger, he didnt fight like he wanted to Take the belt. He comes over to the champs backyard, he is expected to snatch the title off Froch but he didnt do that he went for a points decision.

Hagler came over to Minters backyard and took the title off him, Dirrell came over and ran hugged and was on his knees alot in the fight.

Because I think Dirrell fought like a scared man

Get Dirrells dick outta your mouth boy.

 

Quit watching boxing if you like Dirrell. I have never seen a 'boxer' that has ran as much as him.

I mean he literally turned his back and ran or if he couldn't run he would hug and put his arms around Froch or he would bend so low to suck Froch's dick.

He was never there to fight but run, hug, run some more.

Don't be a boxer if you are yellow. No one likes a coward in the ring. He was pissing his pants and did not look surprise to lose either. His whole game plan was to survive in the ring. Urgh. People like him should not be allowed to box.

Don't even compare him to Mayweather. Not even close.