Andre Ward W Tdec 11 Mikkel Kessler

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  1. brown bomber

    brown bomber 2010 Poster of the Year Full Member

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    Said from the beginning that he was good but nowhere near as exceptional as most made out. Now they'll say Andre Ward is the second coming. I just see another bad Chad.
     
    brown bomber, Nov 25, 2009
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  2. TheUzi

    TheUzi MISSION INCOMPLETE Full Member

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    I think thats a pretty harsh assessment. He's showed no signs of getting KO'd for a start and is far from average.
    I'm going to wait until after his next couple fights and then we'll see where he stands.
    There's no doubting it tho,he was completely out thought and fought the other night.
     
    TheUzi, Nov 25, 2009
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  3. brown bomber

    brown bomber 2010 Poster of the Year Full Member

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    In world championship terms, I think he's average. What does he do exceptionally against anyone who can actually fight? He's lost nearly every round of his true world class career.
     
    brown bomber, Nov 25, 2009
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  4. Dan684

    Dan684 Dave's Stepdad Full Member

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    I like Kessler I really do however for me his limitations were exposed a little in the second half of the Calzaghe fight.

    I know people will say that it was just the fact that (like the other 44) he was just another fighter who struggled to figure JC out but for me this wasn't the case. HE HAD CALZAGHE FIGURED OUT. The fact that he couldn't put that fight to bed when he so clearly had the beating of Joe showed how ineffective he can be. Calzaghe showed a great boxing brain in that fight to overcome Kessler and totally dominate the second half of the fight however to be honest he should never have been allowed to do so and if Kessler would have had a little more about him he'd have also been able to adapt and steal a few rounds in the latter half of the fight.

    The sad thing now is, if this fight took a little out of him and he gets knocked out by Froch or even beaten then its over for him in the tourny. His best hope would then be Bute (Obviously once he gets past Andrade)
     
    Dan684, Nov 25, 2009
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  5. TheUzi

    TheUzi MISSION INCOMPLETE Full Member

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    I think his power is exceptional. His timing is 'usually' exceptional

    Im not making excuses for him but i'm putting the Ward performance down to ring rust,his timing was all off and if reports are correct his sparring was a complete joke.

    If in a few fights he hasn't improved and learnt lessons from what was essentially a near shut out,i'll put my hands up and admit i'm wrong.
     
    TheUzi, Nov 25, 2009
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  6. brown bomber

    brown bomber 2010 Poster of the Year Full Member

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    I think he's decent in world terms and will beat the tocker pudwills of this world but put him in with anyone who can fight well and he'll struggle- just my opinion obviously. In the Benn era he wouldn't have got a look in- Fredric Sellier, Frankie Liles, Tim Littles, Sugar Boy Malinga, Pazienza, Wharton, Toney, Jones, Benn, Eubank, Collins and Wharton were all better fighters.
     
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  7. Diablo

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    I sense 90s nostalgia. But either way your opinion on Calzaghe is soo biased its hard to take your points seriously.
     
    Diablo, Nov 25, 2009
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