Andre Ward

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by lamarn403, Jul 15, 2014.


  1. mrdoctor

    mrdoctor GGG Full Member

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    I waz being sarcastic... Andre doesn't get the big fights because he wants everything his way and boxers are sick of his fight tactics so they avoid him.
     
  2. Faerun

    Faerun Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    2 fights in the last 2 years is shocking. Never seen a boxer this good waste his physical prime like this. He was unbeatable, he could've wiped any division above or below him without breaking a sweat.
     
  3. SweetSciGuru

    SweetSciGuru Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I know right, but this is America and America never does what you think is right.
    Every state in America has utility companies for Gas & Electric, and they monopolize that state. Then Duke Power starts buying other states and Con Edison does the same until they both gobble up all states and finally merge.

    Comcast buys Dish Network, AT&T buys Time Warner, then AT&T buys Comcast.
    As long as America has Wall Street, America will relish monopolies. :yep
     
  4. mrdoctor

    mrdoctor GGG Full Member

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    Do any of u guys think that his promotional conflict he has with goosen is actually smoke and mirrors?...I do...
     
  5. SweetSciGuru

    SweetSciGuru Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    LOL. He's has to put food on the table for his sizeable family, and he is losing the momentum he had that put him at #2 P4P.
    Why do you think it's all faked? :shock:
     
  6. STB

    STB #noexcuses Full Member

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    You think he deliberately stayed out of the ring, and gave up money...because???
     
  7. lamarn403

    lamarn403 Member Full Member

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    Not exactly, the whole story is Ward was given $550,000 extension and half was given by Goosen-Tutor and the other half given by Antonio Leonard (Leonard bought out Square Ring Promotions and thus gained half of promotional rights to Ward since Square Ring and Goosen Tutor each owned half of promotional rights to Ward). I have no proof but I am guessing Leonard is connected to Prince and Dan Goosen probably knows it. But be that as it may Goosen refused to give Antonio Leonard half of the promotional fees for Ward's last fight(Rodriguez) and so thus the litigation began. Ward says he took 275k from Leonard and 275k from Goosen to re-sign so both promoters should get paid.
     
  8. antonio plaisir

    antonio plaisir the detonator Full Member

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    that must be it, then.

    andre needs to dig out his passport if he wants the big fights. i keep hearing he's good enough (and reckon he is), time to prove it.
     
  9. antonio plaisir

    antonio plaisir the detonator Full Member

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    so who has ward fought instead? when could the rematch have happened?
     
  10. lamarn403

    lamarn403 Member Full Member

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    Froch will not fight him and Goosen turned down other fights because he said not enough money was offered. Golovkin trainer says they will fight anyone from 154 to 175 then he says he wants to clear out 160 division then he negotiates to fight Chavez Jr.(who can't even make 168 let alone 160) and that fell through and he still won't fight Ward.
     
  11. antonio plaisir

    antonio plaisir the detonator Full Member

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    i'm aware of ward's claims, thanks.
     
  12. Tancred

    Tancred Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I wasn't his attitude that fighters have to accept that he can decide where fights take place is ridiculous he was wrapped in cotton wool all through the super six refusing to travel what a prima Donna .
     
  13. Mind Reader

    Mind Reader J-U-ICE Full Member

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    I can agree with some things here, but Andre Ward is not a fraud.. He is the best at 168, and he won that it in the ring.
     
  14. Eastcoast

    Eastcoast Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Ward is not the first highly talented fighter to self-destruct his career. He simply doesn't understand his nich. Like Winky Wright & Chris Byrd, Ward's talent and style allows him beat most fighters but in a boring fashion, therefore he's needs to understand that he's going to be the B-side in his fights. Wright never understood his and missed out of some big oppurtunities. Byrd did understand it and was able to make some big fights happen for himself.
     
  15. SOUTHERMOST

    SOUTHERMOST Boxing Addict Full Member

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    What a waste of time Ward is busier fighting in court vs his promoter than taking care of business in the ring.