Andre Ward

His suing his promoter has nothing to do with people ducking him. Hes free to fight.

Goosen makes his money by promoting fights. Ward is possibly his only big fighter left, so why not get him fights? Lawsuit or no lawsuit, he doesnt benefit from keeping Ward on the side lines.

 

I'd leave him rot if I was goosen, ward doesn't make great money fighting and as a result goosen won't either

Since ward is acting the **** after goosen doing a great job for him I'd do the exact same if I was goosen let the ungrateful ******* rot

 

So if Ward, or any other fighter, is unhappy witht their contract then they should do nothing?

 

You'd leave him rot even though you'd be losing money every month you keep him out?? :huh

Thats not a very good business model.

Its like owning a pub but refusing to sell to heavy drinkers.

Ungrateful? You think Goosen promotes people because he loves thyem? He does it because he gets paid to.

Grateful? For what? Goosen makes money by promoting guys. the bigger the fight he gets someone into, the more he makes.

Hes not doing it for some charitable reason.

 

Ward himself claimed Goosen killed a rematch with Kessler and said Goosen was not finding him good offers since the lawsuit. So it has something to do with it, perhaps everything. When Ward was free to fight he hand picked an easy comeback opponent and after more time off expect the same thing. You've been corrected on this before...by me.

Andre Ward threads should be in Classic, he's not relevant to the current scene unless you are discussing commentary and twitter quotes.

 

Yes you would lose a bit of money promoting one fight because his going towant to fight someone **** and not pay money

After all the money goosen has invested in him building him up getting him all home fights to turn around then and sue him and try and leave him is being a ****

Happens in all sports like soccer , managers leave players that try to duck them over rot on the bench instead of selling them

 

Ward said Goosen hasnt even offered him a fight in almost 8 months.

If Goosen is trying to "starve" Ward out, then hes a pretty terrible business man.

He makes money from promoting fights. Ward is pretty much his only elite fighter left.

I just cant understand why a businessman would want to leave money on the table.

Its also odd that every other SMW wants to keep their head down and pretend that Ward doesnt exist. What other era would that happen in?

 

Because he doesn't exist, you've answered your own question. When giving serious interviews and not talking trash, Ward says Goosen won't let him fight.

Plenty of eras. Foreman in the late 90s. Gus Lesnivich in the 40s. Spinks in the late 80s...etc. If the lineal Champion won't fight anyone, life goes on, bills need to be paid. The divison can't stop and wait on him.

And right now at LHW, Hopkins and Kov leaving Stevenson with his dick in the wind.

 

Building him up?

He was an olympic champion. How easy is it to build up an olympic champion??

Also, what exactloy do you know about their relationship? Ill tell you....nothing.

I suggest you never go into business if you think that just throwing away large sums of money is a good way to run a business.

Ward is Goosens only elite fighter left. Not getting Ward fights, is like burning his own money.

Its not like soccer. Imagine if Luis Van Gaal lost money every time he didnt pick Van Persie.....Thats what this is like.

Goosens ONLY job is to get his fighters fights. thats how he makes money. He doesnt get his guys fights...he doesnt get money.

Hes basically a glorified agent.

 

Lineral champ. Holds a belt.

So everyone in the division is happy to be referred to as second best?

Why isnt Froch shouting from the rooftops that he wants to fight Ward?

He made a big deal out of fighting Kessler to avenge his loss, but with Ward its all "oh...he doesnt bring enough money...maybe after the next fight"

 

In all fairness mate , ward could be a convicted child molester and you would still be on here defending him

Olympic champions still need to be built up especially ones with terribly unattractive styles like ward

And what do you know about there relationship? Nothing too so you can't comment either

Goosen isn't losing a penny not giving ward a fight, as the money not in his pocket yet his just not making any, and how do we know that there relationship hasn't got so bad that even if he got a fight, ward wouldn't pull out at the last minute leaving goose with a huge bill out of spite? Goosen is doing the right thing and is not doing business with a guy he obviously doesn't trust anymore

 

History has shown us if the best is a non-entity, absolutely yes. Do you think Holyfield felt like second best after he KOed Tyson? Or that Froch felt like second best after KOing Groves in front of that massive crowd?

He's shouted until he was hoarse. It doesn't matter if you are on a roof top if your just screaming at a deaf wall for years.

We've been through this before. I've backed my case with actual quotes not made up paraphrases.

 

There's no point in arguing with this guy about ward mate, he could be caught on camera molesting children and STB would blame in on someone else

 

Exactly, Ward took off for a supposed injury, the birth of his child, another injury and surgery, lost a law suit, stated in interviews its all Goosen's fault, and in the last two years now has only faced one opponent that was a hand picked tune up he waited on for months. But somehow its everyone else's fought.