Andre Wards options???

You listen to me now, yeah? Actions speak louder than words and Hatton made all the necessary actions to get the fight with Mayweather. Joe didn't leave Europe till 2008. You understand?

 

So Hopkinks wanted to wait till he was older and past prime before fighting Joe? Joe priced himself out of the fight.

 

he has alot of options problem is he does not explore them

 

The Hopkins, Calzaghe fight in 2002 was part of a three fight deal Hopkins was going to sign, part of which would have involved a Calzaghe fight. However, Hopkins was getting ripped off by Don King and would have seen very little of the contract money, which is why he asked for more and which is why the fight fell through.

As for FW agreeing to pay Hopkins $3 millions, hahaha, we all know we can trust him dont we. You guys make it sound as if FW turned up on Hopkins doorstep with a suitcase full of money and Hopkins said "no way, I'm not fighting Calzaghe".

So we have more Calzaghe fanatic logic. Hopkins was happy to fight Calzaghe at the age of 43 and past prime, he was even willing to rematch him. But he was scared of fighting Calzaghe when he was in his prime.

 

Andre Wardkke will not fight anyone unless he has maximum advantage going in.
He is the most boring fights of the last 60 years without doubt and nobody really gives a **** if or when he fights again because he utterly irrelevant.

 

Why not Kessler in Europe. To shut up the critics?

 

Bailey,

He didn't have to say "I want Floyd!" He baited him by saying what he did. It was a live dig in front of millions of people, and Floyd was angry. He phoned Ellerbe in a rage. Ellerbe has publicly stated that. He told him he badly wanted the fight. Ricky knew exactly what he was doing.

Joe actually said he was looking to fight Roy, but then did NOTHING! He continued to fight at 168 in Britain.

Now I'll try asking you the same question that I always ask you, that you can't answer.

How was fighting the likes of Brewer and Jiminez at 168 in Britain, going to land him a big money fight against Roy who fought in America at 175??

Talk is cheap.

Joe had a 15 year career.

For 11 of those 15 years, he fought in a DIFFERENT weight class to Roy.

 

Bailey,

Ha! I have PROVED it, and I'll do it again if you wish.

If you truly believe it was an off the cuff remark, then stop using it to back up your posts. It's either proof or an off the cuff remark. Which one?

Now saying that you chased someone for 5 to 6 years is not an off the cuff remark anyway. Joe claimed he'd been hard done by. He was playing the victim, pretending he wanted Roy.

Joe was a pro for 15 years. For 11 of those years, he fought in a DIFFERENT weight class. But he chased him for 6 years? Yeah right. If you want the timeline again you can have it.

Also Roy never confirmed that Joe had chased him for 6 years. All Roy said was "I know Joe's wanted to fight me for some time." They were being polite to each other, and splitting everything down the middle 50/50. Do you seriously think Roy validated Joe's ridiculous claims by saying what he said?

I get that, but you've asked those two questions of yours a hundred times. If you want to do a comparison, try a head to head breakdown of strengths and weaknesses etc. Or compare them when they were both 28/29.

 

:good

 

Loudon always provides quality debates here.