Andre Ward's problem: Sergey Kovalev is big and good

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  1. tinman

    tinman Loyal Member Full Member

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    I think Ward will get past Barrera tomorrow because of the skill disparity. Then the Kovalev fight will start becoming an actual possibility. But here's the problem, Andre Ward will almost surely lose to Sergey Kovalev and most likely by knockout.

    Foster-Frazier
    Foster-Ali
    Gomez-Sanchez
    Trinidad-Hopkins
    Pacquiao-Morales
    Hearns-Hagler
    Duran-Hearns
    Jackson-McClellan
    Arguello-Pryor
    Robinson-Lamotta
    Napoles-Monzon

    What do all these fights have in common? They featured two absolute top level p4p fighters in or near their primes where there was a size disparity. The guy moving up in weight almost loses. That's just how boxing is. The bigger guys are strong, they punch hard, they walk through shots. They're bigger, that's just how it goes.

    Duran-Leonard
    Mosley-DLH
    Robinson-Lamotta

    These are some high profile fights where the little man actually did win. And none of those three fights were clear except for Robinson destroying Lamotta who is the GOAT.

    If Ward beats Kovalev that would be extremely impressive and really a fabulous win.
     
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  2. conraddobler

    conraddobler Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    you forgot a couple major ones on the little guy ledger

    Leonard-Hagler(!)

    Pacquiao - De La Hoya*

    Hopkins - Tarver

    Floyd - Canelo

    *DLH was past prime but was favored to win 3-1 or so.
     
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  3. CST80

    CST80 De Omnibus Dubitandum Staff Member

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    Ward is the Son Of God, unfortunately for him Kovalev is the Hand Of God:yikes
     
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  4. lewis gassed

    lewis gassed The Bronze Dosser Full Member

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    Jack Reiss will DQ Sergey for hitting Ward in the face :yikes
     
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  5. CST80

    CST80 De Omnibus Dubitandum Staff Member

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    And then the Hand Of God will smite Jack's attention hoe ass down.:nod
     
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  6. lepinthehood

    lepinthehood When I'm drinking you leave me well alone banned Full Member

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    Jack crease they will call him because his face will just be one massive crease doen the centre.
     
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  7. Manfred

    Manfred Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    That is a good call because Kovalev is good and getting better. He knows that all he has to do is tighten up a few rough spots and Ward will not be able to handle him. He even stated after the Pascal fight that Ward could take his time and think that he eluding to the fact that he wanted to get a little more boxing knowledge under his belt. I will be watching to see how Ward handles the heavy hands of Berrera. If he can deal with that, then the Kovalev fight is going to be very interesting.
     
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  8. Doc Everlast

    Doc Everlast Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Has anyone seen a video of the weigh in?
     
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  9. Doc Everlast

    Doc Everlast Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    If Jack Reiss is the referee then you know for sure that Ward was asking for all kinds of concessions and got most of them! Reiss have proved his incompetence already so Sanchez and Barreras camp should of asked for a Smoger. It better not be Lawrence Cole either. Over the past few years that man has shown incompetence and is dangerous for the fighters.
     
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  10. tinman

    tinman Loyal Member Full Member

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    Floyd Canelo is tainted by the Catchweight and the fact that there was a clear skill disparity. So yes Floyd was smaller and won, but is Canelo really that skilled? Especially in comparison to Mayweather?

    I thought about the Hagler Leonard fight, but it happened in 87 instead of 81-85.
     
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  11. Mr.DagoWop

    Mr.DagoWop Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    Yes, if you are talking about the Barrera-Ward weigh in.
     
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  12. Steve_Fox

    Steve_Fox Well-Known Member Full Member

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    ward is more skilled though
     
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  13. tinman

    tinman Loyal Member Full Member

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    I don't think he is. Kovalev is a superb fighter. I think their skills are about even. I'm picking the bigger man to win in that case.
     
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  14. don owens

    don owens Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    :lol::lol:
     
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  15. The Long Count

    The Long Count Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Good ****ogy. We'll know more after tomorrow night. It Ward impresses it's a 50/50 fight or 55/45 in Kovalev's favor imo. If Ward struggles but wins it's 85/15 a Kovalev win for me.
     
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