Andre Wards weaknesses

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  1. Jack

    Jack Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    The fact you disagree with me and the fact I always - always - school you, means I'm increasingly confident in Froch.

    You know very little about boxing. You said "Mike Tyson was a face first brawler" when he clearly wasn't and and "Sergio Martinez is a pure boxer" when he clearly isn't. You also claimed guys like Julian Jackson and Hector Camacho are American, when they aren't, and came out with bull**** like Frazier has a jaw like "Superman".

    The thing is, the majority of posters on here see you as a troll. I don't. I just think you're so stupid and unintelligent, you think you're being smart yet falling flat on your face every time.

    Please, if you want to continue making a fool of yourself, carry on. By the way, isn't it about time you started calling me "master", "sir" or something?
     
  2. MichiganWarrior

    MichiganWarrior Still Slick! Still Black! Full Member

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    I've been right this entire tournament.


    So is it true? You're picking Froch? Wanna make a ban bet on that?
     
  3. Jack

    Jack Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I think it's a 50/50 fight. We should have had a lifetime ban bet about Froch/Johnson instead.
     
  4. Leprikawn7

    Leprikawn7 Active Member Full Member

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    Ward fought Kessler with the same exact fight plan as Froch but he dissmantled Kessler! They say he has no knockout punch but I dont see guys rushing in and roughing him up.

    Dirrell used to spar with Ward, and when it came down to fighting him he all of a sudden had an injury!

    I dont see anything that Ward cant deal with. He is able to change his game plan many times in the middle of the fight and his trainer is very smart.
     
  5. pngo

    pngo #1Contender Full Member

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    Ward already has proven he's much better at everything than Froch. If someone like Dirrell can frustrate Froch so much, just wait until he fights Ward.
     
  6. RightCross

    RightCross Grandmaster of Boxing Full Member

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    jack your smart not to make a lifetime ban bet. Comapring andre ward to johnson is way off base.

    I will be the first to tell you if you take a ban bet lifetime, hope you have an alt account. Froch does not win this fight.
     
  7. MichiganWarrior

    MichiganWarrior Still Slick! Still Black! Full Member

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    :lol: As I thought. Coward.
     
  8. Leon

    Leon The Artful Dodger Full Member

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    You don't school anyone. You're one of them foos that don't know what they're talking about, so you try to play it off to make it LOOK like you know what you're talking about. How did sending in your resume to get a job alongside Mark Wilbon go?
     
  9. Reppin501

    Reppin501 The People's Champ Full Member

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    Jack, I respect your opinion, and I don't altogether disagree about Ward being somewhat "unproven" on some levels. I think there are certianly questions about any fighter that is this young, and already had this kind of success. While I believe Ward is a fantastic fighter, with enormous potential, I would think the same could be said for Froch. I also believe Froch to have a strong mind and a great deal of confidence...not arrogance but true confidence which is also of great importance. I have nothing but respect for Froch, BUT I also recognize his obvious flaws. Some guys tend to get passive with Froch, if allowed to dictate the pace and get off first, Froch is difficult to beat and that has been established. Yet when a fighter commits to making him uncomfortable whether through movement (Dirrell) or using an effective jab and getting off first (Taylor) he has shown a tendency to struggle. IF and that is (at least in my mind) a huge IF, Ward is able to withstand Froch's power, he will win the fight. I will say I was impressed with Froch's ability to battle Johnson on the inside and I was surprised at his effectiveness in this regard, and I feel that could be a factor in this fight, but overall I see Ward as too quick, too technically sound, and simply too talented for Froch to simply "outbox". He will have to score KD's at a minimum, if not stop Ward to win the fight, while avoid being hurt himself. I think Ward's power is being slightly underrated, as I think he certainly has the power to hurt an opponent, but not necessarily enough to stop one. Interesting fight indeed, and I look forward to it.
     
  10. lufcrazy

    lufcrazy requiescat in pace Full Member

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    Fuk i'm a believer in ward. His coming out victory over kessler was superb. Since then both kessler and ward have looked top notch.

    He's justifiably number 1 atm and he has no immediate weakness he is very well rounded.

    He's going to be a rightful favourite over froch and it can go two ways imo.

    He can crumble under the occasion and let froch frustrate and outpoint him, or he can completely school froch and establish himself as the big swinging dick in the division.

    Whilst I have ward and froch as the clear top two it's only due to dirrell and kessler's inactivity.

    Bute is a non entity until he fights someone better than andrade. There is surely no reasonable argument stopping froch overtaking bute into 2nd place.
     
  11. Ivo

    Ivo Boxing Addict Full Member

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    A home fighter;
    Lacks a strong punch;
    Fights dirty
     
  12. MJK

    MJK Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I think that Ward weakness (questions) are:
    1- Is he able to really hurt Froch to keep him from opening?
    2- Will he try to go inside and push Froch in the ropes like he did with almost everyone (the ref didnt let Ward do it against Abraham, but after the fight, Ward said that the ref doing so changed is strategy for the fight). If Ward try to push Froch around, I dont think it will do him too much good since Froch is dirty inside too.

    So in my view, I think that Froch needs to go in mid-range and let his hands go.
     
  13. Jack

    Jack Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I made that point because MichiganWarrior claimed Johnson would beat Froch:
     
  14. Jack

    Jack Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    So I should bet on a fight I'm not sure about? Why? Because it suits you? If I was confident about picking Froch, I would, but I know that Ward is a tough fight.

    Unlike you, I'm not the type of person who goes back on his word. You've constantly exaggerated, contradicted and flat out lied to prove your points in the past, which isn't what I do.
     
  15. DaveyboyEssexUK

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    How does Froch stop Ward controlling the fight with his jab?? Simple use his jab but as a weapon and not give any ground