Andrew Golota: A Tribute To The Powerful Pole-The Dirty Meat Tenderizer Of Warszawa.

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  1. CST80

    CST80 De Omnibus Dubitandum Staff Member

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    I don't remember the exact scores since I haven't seen the matches in a decade, but I remember had Golota beating Ruiz by a point or two and I think I had Golota ahead by a point in the Byrd match but that was closer than the Ruiz match and I wasn't an "expert" judge at the time so I should rewatch them, not that I'm an expert now.:yep
     
  2. Rumsfeld

    Rumsfeld Moderator Staff Member

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    For what it's worth (coming from a long time Golota fan), I had Golota beating Byrd 116-112, and had him beating Ruiz 114-111. I actually thought in terms of rounds that Golota did better against Byrd. I believe Fightnews.com also had the bout 116-112. But that was one where there were some nightmare rounds to score in the late middle rounds.

    Golota-Byrd was actually a fun watch. I think it was the 2nd best HW title fight in the 2000s behind Brewster-Liakhovich (yes, I thought it was more entertaining than Lewis-Vitali which would be #3 on my list).

    I wish Golota-Byrd had an immediate rematch. It was a fight that warranted one, and I think it would have been a much better fight than either Golota-Ruiz or Byrd-McCline (although Byrd-McCline was a fun fight, too, and Golota-Ruiz was about as entertaining as any Ruiz fight I ever recall seeing, Stone's theatrics and all).

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  3. UnleashtheFURY

    UnleashtheFURY D'oh! Full Member

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    Golota was robbed by Byrd, and Fraud Ruiz.... Disgraceful decisions...
     
  4. elchivito

    elchivito master betty Full Member

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    Yea Golota in his prime was a very underrated fighter. Beautiful, precise, compact combinations. Hell, any type of combinations are rare in the hw division and Golota unleashed some nice ones when he could. If he was as mentally strong as Vitali, Golota would of been an atg. He lost many fights he shouldn't have.
     
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  5. damian38

    damian38 BigDramaShow Full Member

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    the first fighter I ever got up at 4am or spent sleepless nights for, the Foul Pole:deal
     
  6. theanatolian

    theanatolian Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I feel like trolling Rumsfeld by saying Povetkin would've easily KTFOd prime Golota :yep
     
  7. CST80

    CST80 De Omnibus Dubitandum Staff Member

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    The nightmare rounds reason you point out is why I had the Byrd match closer, even though I usually lead towards the more aggressive fighter as far as scoring a fight goes, I'm not kneejerk I try to be fair so I do score for accuracy, but even then I gave the Byrd match to Golota. Maybe I'll rewatch it I was 24 so maybe I didn't know what the f*** I was talking about.:conf:lol:
     
  8. Beouche

    Beouche Juan Manuel Marquez Full Member

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    :rofl the nickname
     
  9. UnleashtheFURY

    UnleashtheFURY D'oh! Full Member

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    You don't know what the **** you're talking about at 35 nevermind 24....



    Jk. :D
     
  10. attaboi

    attaboi Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    How could you commend a man who intentional hits his opponents below the belt, and headbutts them because he couldn't get his way.

    I love the way Lewis dealt with Golota, giving him no chance to pull the kind of nonsense he does with other fighter.

    Just straight up annihilate him in 90 seconds.
     
  11. Rumsfeld

    Rumsfeld Moderator Staff Member

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    First off, I said commend his fans, not condemn them. They are a loyal bunch, and in my experience in boxing forums dating back to late 90s, they are some of the classiest boxing fans I've ever come to know.

    As for Golota, he was a flawed character for sure. And while he mentally succumbed to pressure in his physical prime, he did manage to redeem himself following the Tyson fiasco with 2 solid efforts against Byrd and Ruiz when he was already long past his best, and fighting with an injury that had incapacitated his best weapon 5 years prior.

    Not every boxer can succeed at the top level. But Golota was a charismatic fighter who gave it his best, and he was a popular attraction throughout his career having appeared in many memorable contests, including those which may not be memorable for all the best reasons.

    And I'm not sure how long you've been following the sport, but intentional fouling is something that was happening in prize fighting long before the Foul Pole hit the scene.

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  12. Rumsfeld

    Rumsfeld Moderator Staff Member

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    :rofl:good
     
  13. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt Guy wants to name his çock 'macho' that's ok by me

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    :think I'm curious, actually, how do you see that one going?
     
  14. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt Guy wants to name his çock 'macho' that's ok by me

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    Adamek vs. Briggs I & II wowed everybody that saw them. Cunningham I, too.

    At light heavy and cruiser he was a very exciting fighter to watch & follow. It wasn't until heavyweight that he became a big fat boring drawn-out morning-after-Mexican-night fart in the fans' mouths.
     
  15. Rumsfeld

    Rumsfeld Moderator Staff Member

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    I started a trend thread on this awhile back. 2012 Povetkin vs 1996 Golota.

    I'm not sure how it goes, and Povetkin could very well win. But I see Golota as stronger, more skilled, and having the much better jab. Povetkin's biggest edge over Golota is in mental toughness.

    Whatever the outcome, I think it's one of those fights where Golota does a number on Povetkin - at least for a stretch. Meaning if 96 Golota were to lose, I think it would be along the lines of something like the Grant fight where he was winning before Povetkin's persistence paid big dividends.

    I've never been big on Povetkin, I've never gotten the stench of his performance against Huck out of my mind, and as you know I'm a long time Golota fan.

    But all that said, I honestly still can't see Povetkin having great success against 96 Andrew - even if Golota wound up blowing it in the end.

    Even the 1999 version of Golota, whose athleticism declined a peg or 2 by that time, I think is a better boxer than Povetkin.