Andrew Golota: A Tribute To The Powerful Pole-The Dirty Meat Tenderizer Of Warszawa.

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  1. CST80

    CST80 De Omnibus Dubitandum Staff Member

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    I've seen the Cunningham matches, Steve got somewhat robbed in the second, I guess I'll have to educate myself on Adamek-Briggs I missed both of them.:conf
     
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  2. Rumsfeld

    Rumsfeld Moderator Staff Member

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    IB is 100% correct. The Adamek-Briggs fights were great.

    The first one was on the untelevised Golota-Brewster under card. That was Adamek's breakthrough fight.
     
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  3. CST80

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    And that explains why I missed it.
     
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  4. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt Guy wants to name his çock 'macho' that's ok by me

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    Yeah, despite everyone harping on Golota's chin and Sasha's vaunted power early on (more so in the last few years, I don't know about 2012) I don't see it ending in the 1st half.

    Povetkin has always come on strong - thinking about Chambers, where he was arguably on the wrong end of a shutout nearing the midway point, eventually taking away Eddie's jab and dominating in the home stretch - while Golota is definitely prone to wilting in the face of adversity. His biggest weakness, undermining all those strengths of his. :-(
     
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  5. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt Guy wants to name his çock 'macho' that's ok by me

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    Steve absolutely got robbed in the rematch but the first was a competitive FOTY candidate. Adamek vs. Briggs I & II were more than candidates, they're hard to argue with as FOTY in '05 and '06 respectively - and that is saying a mouthful, as both years were rife with terrific, memorable battles.
     
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  6. Rumsfeld

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    The only time Golota truly overcame adversity was against Mollo when his eye looked like a beaten up vag. I really wish he had bowed out on that note. It would have been a perfect ending.
     
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  7. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt Guy wants to name his çock 'macho' that's ok by me

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    Rum, who do you rate higher p4p all-time - Golota or Goral?

    BoxRec has them ranked 2nd and 5th respectively in Poland - Adamek just behind Michalzewski, two guys from the 1930's and 40's between him & Golota.
     
    IntentionalButt, Jul 21, 2015
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  8. Rumsfeld

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    Definitely Adamek in terms of accomplishment. I believe him and DM are (or were) the only 2 Polish boxers to win titles in multiple weight classes (the same 2 as it turned out). So I can co-sign having them #1 and 2, and I think a case can be made for Tomasz.

    I think Golota was more skilled and more physically gifted, but Adamek was no slouch in those departments, and Adamek had the exact type of mental fortitude that Golota was grossly lacking - and Adamek, pre-heavyweight, had mental fortitude in abundance.
     
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  9. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt Guy wants to name his çock 'macho' that's ok by me

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    How about h2h rating in their respective prime weights, pound for pound? It sounds like you might consider Golota a more formidable heavyweight than Adamek was a light heavy? Or does the gap in mental fortitude make up for Golota's edge in talent and make Adamek still the more complete fighter?
     
    IntentionalButt, Jul 21, 2015
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  10. CST80

    CST80 De Omnibus Dubitandum Staff Member

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    :rofl
    When I started writing this after I did the first paragraph I realized there were too many crazy things to cover in detail and I'd be writing for over an hour. :lol: So I just summarized his wins and losses instead.
     
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  11. IntentionalButt

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  12. IntentionalButt

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    Here's a fun thought experiment:

    ...prime Golota vs. Wilder now?

    Anything from Wilder TKO1 to Golota by any outcome he chooses (if he can hold it together and not wild out in frustration at the end of Wilder's reach) seems possible to me.
     
    IntentionalButt, Jul 21, 2015
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  13. CST80

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    :goodI'll get back to you in a day or two after I've watched both of them, but it'll have to be a hell of a match to top Corrales Castillo I.



    And I was thinking the same thing the other day, Golota by KO.:deal Wilder would get caught with something big eventually.
     
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  14. Rumsfeld

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    When I first read this, my initial reaction was the final sentence probably reflects the truth - as much as it pains me to say that.

    But... in the spirit of what you're asking, I think Golota would perform and match up better against a lot of the ATG heavyweights when compared to how Adamek would fare against ATG light heavyweights.

    And Golota could probably beat more top 30 ATG heavyweights than Adamek can light heavyweights in any case.

    Prime Golota never really got outboxed. He tended to get more overwhelmed. Adamek, on the other hand, was outclassed by Dawson. I know Dawson was peak form and Adamek was apparently having trouble making weight around that time, but he was clearly outboxed in a way that I can see I can see other light heavyweights from the division's rich history duplicating and improving on.
     
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  15. IntentionalButt

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    2006 is arguably the bigger hurdle. Sith vs. Monshipour is an underrated modern CLASSIC.

    Not saying Chico vs. JLC isn't great, but it gets a lot more shine in the Western media than some random little Thai vs. some random little Iranian at super bantam. I'm frankly surprised Ring Mag gave it the nod.
     
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