Andrew Golota - career recap (video)

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  1. Rumsfeld

    Rumsfeld Moderator Staff Member

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    Fantastic video
     
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    Rumsfeld Moderator Staff Member

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    Thanks for taking the time to watch.

    :good
     
  4. Vince Voltage

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    Very enjoyable. A respectful ode to one of boxing's most puzzling characters.
     
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    *combo to the nuts.
     
  6. Rumsfeld

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    Thank you.

    :good
     
  7. The Long Count

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    Great video. I still have ten minutes left to watch. I remember all those fights watched them live especially early Golota vs Pou'ha and Nichholson and the first 2 Bowe fights.
    The man was talented. Very talented. Just didn't have the temperament for the sport. Classic front runner. Even still had he gotten the two wins against Bowe and the right call vs Byrd and Ruiz. He would be very highly rated today and a tough call in many mythical matches
     
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    he grant Historian/Film Maker

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    Rummy nice job .. like how you astutely showcased Foreman protecting Merchant and Lampley ... Jim used to snicker at having to share the booth w Foreman but after that night showed him far more respect.
     
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  9. Rumsfeld

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    Yeah, it would be interesting to see how Golota would be perceived if he did get the nod against Byrd and/or Ruiz (especially if he had gotten it in both bouts). And I often wonder if Golota's career could have maybe panned out differently had he gotten the win in the Bowe rematch. I definitely think there were many opportunities for Eddie Cotton or Thell Torrence to stop the fight. Had the fight been stopped and Golota awarded a TKO win over Bowe - would Golota have come out mentally stronger with the victory?

    I think it's possible, as I definitely think he came out of the Bowe fights mentally weaker. But then again, that Bowe rematch was the type of war that may have mentally damaged him regardless.
     
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    Thanks! Hearing Big George "Don't do it, son! Don't do it! Go back to where you came from" is something I always found funny. And then Lampley thanking Foreman after the fact - you didn't even need to see what was actually going on to appreciate the entirety of what unfolded with Big George.
     
  11. The Long Count

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    Great insight. It would have made Golota mentally stronger. I thought Cotton did Bowe a great disservice not stopping that bout after the 7th round. Not sure Bowe's career could of been salvaged regardless but he took so much punishment and basically was not in the fight at that point and didn't come back into the fight until he landed that great right hand you showcased in round 9 or 10.
    Golota for all his faults was both talented and he possessed an exciting style. He could move, Jab, slug when he had to, went to the body and head. He could slip punches. Shame a great what if case
     
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    I'm not sure if Golota would have come out mentally stronger. Maybe. Maybe not.

    But I do also wonder how he might have fared against Ray Mercer back in mid 1997. Ray would have surely came with his A-game after what Golota did to Bowe. And I think Mercer matches more favorably for Golota than Lewis did. That could have been a tremendous fight.
     
  13. The Long Count

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    I met ray on two occasions and I may meet him in the future. He is a great conversation. I'll ask him thoughts. I think Ray would get Golota to fold late probably while trailing.
    Some things Ray has told me in the past. He felt Wlad's would lose again before he retired (he did to Fury)
    He felt Wilder was terrible and had chicken legs. Said he would of KO'd him in 4 rounds. And that he would not be he man to beat Wlad.
    He firmly believes he deserved the decision against Lewis.
    Said Wlad was the hardest hitter he faced but as he put it " I was beyond old for that fight so who knows" I interpreted this to mean that maybe his punch resistance was diminished or things just hurt more when old.
    Said his toughest fight was against his former sparring partner because he knew all his moves and he tired quickly. (Can't recall the guys name may have been the guy he was alleged to try and have take a dive) Ferguson maybe? Anyway really good guy. And enjoys talking about the sport and the Olympics of 88.
     
  14. Saad54

    Saad54 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Great video

    I remember watching the Briggs and Ruiz losses on that Night of the Young Heavyweights card. - I was happy Briggs was exposed and Tua's

    performance was just brutal.

    For some reason, I didn't watch the Golota-Nicholson fight at the time.

    Yeah, Golota showed his mental fragility in the Pouha and Nicholson fights.

    He just couldn't control himself.

    And he paid twice for it v. Bowe.
     
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    He was a little past it when he barely failed to beat Ruiz and Byrd.

    It underscored that he had underachieved in his prime and at the same time, highlighted that the division wasn't as strong as during Golota's prime.


    If he doesn't get DQd in the Bowe fights I think he would have

    still fought and gotten beaten by Lewis.

    If he fights Tyson or Mercer in 96-97 I think he loses.

    As you showed in the video, Golota displayed mental weakness

    even before the Bowe fights.

    I think he had the goods to beat Mercer but his weak

    temperament would have caused him to lose it, probably after

    building a points lead.
     
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