Andrew Golota vs Muhammad Ali

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  1. cross_trainer

    cross_trainer Liston was good, but no "Tire Iron" Jones Full Member

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    Prime for prime. How well does Golota perform compared to Ali's other 60s opposition?
     
  2. Oddone

    Oddone Bermane Stiverne's life coach. Full Member

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    Gets frustrated early due to not being able to land anything cleanly on a fast, young Ali.

    After eating jabs to the face for the first round or two, Ali would pepper him with rights and Golota would most likely foul or rough house.

    Golota was never mentally stable enough to follow any kind of plan good enough to beat Ali. Golota was a true waste. He was as strong of a guy as you'd ever meet but as weak of a person as you would ever see.

    Ali wins around the sixth. Either ref/doc stoppage, Golota quits in his corner or low blows DQ.
     
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  3. Saintpat

    Saintpat Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Ali would leaving him crying in a corner at the press conference.

    Ali was a master of the mental game. Golota was just mental.
     
  4. Journeyman92

    Journeyman92 Mauling Mormon’s Full Member

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    Ali got shook up by Oscar “Plato” Bonavena acting like a child. “Black Kangroo” etc.
     
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  5. Saintpat

    Saintpat Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    And composed himself to stop Ringo IIRC.

    All someone had to do with Golota was say ‘boo’ and he’d start to fall apart. There’s literally no meaningful fight where Golota didn’t completely and ridiculously lose his composure. It’s a mental mismatch.
     
  6. Journeyman92

    Journeyman92 Mauling Mormon’s Full Member

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    That’s fair, but I wouldn’t call him a mental master if he gets fired up over childish insults from a guy who barely understood English.
     
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  7. Rumsfeld

    Rumsfeld Moderator Staff Member

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    What are you trying to do to poor Golota here? :lol:

    Actually, if Golota wasn't mentally psyched out before it started, and he was relaxed enough with anxiety issues under relative control, he had a lot of tools that may have given Ali some difficulty for awhile. But one way or another, I think Ali breaks his will sooner or later, even if Golota started under ideal circumstances.

    This actually reminds me of a hypothetical Golota scenario I was thinking about a few days ago. Will try and turn that one into a post.

    I'll take Ali by mid/late round stoppage, for the record. And I reckon something bizarre would likely happen along the way.
     
  8. Holmes77

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    Would be interesting to see how Ali would handle low blow after low blow lol
     
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  9. cross_trainer

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    Golota TKOs Ali's future lineage?
     
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  10. Journeyman92

    Journeyman92 Mauling Mormon’s Full Member

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    Pretty well, Bonavena did it a lot and head butt. Ali illegally finishing him really was Karma in that one.
     
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  11. Saintpat

    Saintpat Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Ali did whatever it took to get himself up for a fight. Lot of fighters do it … like Marvin Hagler would manage to hate any opponent for basically no reason to motivate himself.

    I don’t think Ringo had him shook, lol.
     
  12. Journeyman92

    Journeyman92 Mauling Mormon’s Full Member

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    You might be onto something. I don’t know.
     
  13. BoB Box

    BoB Box "Hey Adam! Wanna play Nintendo?" Full Member

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    Aslong as Ali shows up with a strong cup groin protector, Ali gets a mid fight stoppage.
     
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  14. Pugguy

    Pugguy Ingo, The Thinking Man’s GOAT Full Member

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    Ali knew how to get a bit rough himself, especially if returning in kind.

    I don’t think Ali would reciprocate low blows but he knew how to hold and push down on the back of the neck/head, shove opponents away - even using the glove in the face, etc.

    Personally, I’d wear a cup with outward protruding spikes. Should be legal since it’s worn in “no punch”territory - hit south of the belt line and pay the price!

    Most importantly - what nick does Ali bestow upon Golota? The Bi-Pole perhaps?
     
  15. Richard M Murrieta

    Richard M Murrieta Now Deceased 2/4/25 Full Member

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    With all due respect Journeyman 92, the confrontation with Oscar Ringo Bonavena took place prior to Muhammad Ali's TKO 15 over Bonavena on Dec 7 1970 in Madison Square Garden. The Ali of the 1960's was a way different fighter, look what he did to Floyd Patterson when he referred to him as Cassius Clay, in Nov 1965, he punished The Rabbit for 12 rounds until referee Harry Krause stopped it. Look what he did to Ernie Terrell in Feb 1967, remember What's My Name? in round 8. The Ali of the 1970's appeared to get rattled by guys like Bonavena and Joe Frazier. But I know that you do not care for Muhammad Ali, and you are entitled to your opinion.
     
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