Andy Lee, trainer

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  1. FrankinDallas

    FrankinDallas FRANKINAUSTIN

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    Despite being related to Tyson Fury, Andy Lee had an honorable career in the ring. Now he is a trainer.
    He trained Parker who lost to Joyce; Parker wasn't going to win no matter who trained him.

    Last night, Jason Quigley fought a competitive fight against Berlanga who was supposedly a monster and who was something like a -900 favorite. Quigley had been blasted out by Demetrious Andrade, getting his jaw broken early in the 2round bout. He didn't look good and stepping up in level didn't seem like a good idea.

    Lee came up with an excellent plan for Quigley, completely changing his style. Quiggy led with a Euro type high left arm, and kept on the move all night. This confused Berlanga and his team who had assumed that Quigs would come right at him. Quigs got knocked down twice legitimately when he didn't move like he was supposed to do. The final score cards were ridiculous but IMO and many others thought the right man won.

    Despite the score results, Quigley acquitted himself very well with Lee's plan in his pocket and he'll probably get some money fights out of it.

    I think Lee did well for Quigley (although telling Quigs he won the round after getting knocked down was interesting but maybe psychologic on his part); what do you guys think of his training career now and in the future.
     
  2. Lesion of Doom

    Lesion of Doom Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I want him to be a good trainer just because of the link to Emmanuel Steward, but otherwise who knows. Seems like a decent guy, tho.
     
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  3. miniq

    miniq AJ IS A BODYBUILDING BUM Full Member

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    Trainers can only do so much to nurture.

    Lee looks at fighters for what they are which you have to do with older pro's and has a good eye for what their opponents are looking for in the ring which is good.
     
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  4. Ex Army Jim 39

    Ex Army Jim 39 couldnt believe the price of chairs banned Full Member

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    struggle to imagine him being good trainer with all the crap he talks in commentating he talks some rubbish does andy lee
     
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  5. like a boss

    like a boss Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Lee appears to know what he is doing but trainers are hard to judge with accuracy unless they transform fighters in manner that is obvious to all.
     
  6. thehook13

    thehook13 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    They keep coming to him, possibly his contacts/influence has helped there. But he has been there to be fair plenty to pass on for those already under the big lights A highly touted student of boxing who caught Emmanuel Stewart's eye.
     
  7. miniq

    miniq AJ IS A BODYBUILDING BUM Full Member

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    The greatest trainer is self.
     
  8. KiwiMan

    KiwiMan Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    He took a lot of flack after the Parker loss to Joyce, but I thought a lot of it was unfair as Parker had no way to win that fight. He doesn't have the stamina to box and move for 12 rounds, so Lee got him to stand his ground and trade and try to break Joyce (not impossible, in hindsight). So it may well have been the correct strategy to try to win the fight. Now it may have been better from a career longevity perspective to lose a wide UD tamely (probably possible if he fought defensive from round 1) and many of us thought Parker would do just that, but Lee himself never fought that way and as fans surely we appreciate coming to win as opposed to coming to try to avoid being KOed.

    I don't know how far Lee will go as a trainer but early signs are good to me. He seems to be able to motivate his fighters and get them to execute game-plans, even if a victory doesn't always result.
     
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  9. Rico Spadafora

    Rico Spadafora Master of Chins Full Member

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    I agree with this.
     
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  10. MorvidusStyle

    MorvidusStyle Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Looked from the footage he was doing a lot of the work with Fury in that Sugar Hill camp, wouldn't surprise me if he did most of it given what a con man Hill is, and the fact Lee was actually a top fighter.
    I still think they blew smoke up Fury and made him too reckless believing he was a KO artist, and Lee was probably guilty of that too.
    Lee did seem to have a big punch at his weight, but Fury doesn't have that power relative to his opposition. And of course Lee's style got him into trouble in his career too and some losses he didn't need to have.

    Fury did fine in the first Wilder fight despite standing in front of him in the last round. The other KD was a bit of a weird hit and didn't hurt him much. All he had to do was stick to that but turn the aggression up a little when he landed, which he himself said around that time. He likely could have hurt and TKO'd Wilder anyway in the rematches. Instead these "Kronk'' cultists tried to turn him into a fat pressure fighter, and got him brain damage. Make no mistake, Wilder almost nailed him early in that second fight two.

    Btw, that style they championed for Fury would have got most fighters badly KO'd by Wilder. Coming at him like that is a recipe for disaster. Only Fury's toughness and determination got him through. The fighters who had the most success against Wilder were those who boxed pretty carefully, Ortiz and the Pole. Ortiz almost finished Wilder off the first time. Fury is better and should have just done that and added a bit more venom to his shots, not become a punching bag.
     
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  11. Reinhardt

    Reinhardt Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    It will take time, years and dozens of fighters to make any claim of how good he is. Seems like he's okay but from this distance who knows.
     
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