have you seen the punches duddy has taken,it doesnt matter who its from,he took them from professional fighters,nobody will stand up to pavlik/AA or miranda after consistently taking shots from them. **** argument from you there mate!
Still gotta go with Lee as Duddy cant really punch so I dont think he wears Lee down. His pourous defence wont help either.
OOH i guess it must be that time of the month for you huh. well at leat PAper machea face is still undefeated . as for Andy 3 leaf clover (cuz he's nothing special) LEE he migh even be able to beat DUDDY no skill i block with my face
yep,no skill,thats why he won 100 amateur fights and is 24-0 17kos atsch andy lee has flaws,noone is denying that,but they are very fixable,i guess beating up the likes of JT in sparring and getting medals at euro championships is **** all,jesus whats the point in doing anything significant anymore,cos if you get beat you're just a hypejob ... your logic is bizarre!
not that paper machea face is great like you make his limited ass out to be but also leaf clove LEE was hyped up way too much and sparring is sparring it doesn't alway translate out to a real fight. but hey i guess since lee beat JT in training **** KP better watch out for brain vera hell brain vera should jump up to LIght heavey and fight B-hop cuz now that he beat lee who skooled taylor in sparring he must be able to be b-HOp:nut :-( hopefully you now see you illogical way of thinking:hi:
lee lost that means he must be a bum. lee takes this he has pulled up his game and got stopped on his feet if your going to go out it's best to get stopped on your feet. i thikn lee has to drop the very wiered guard. he holds his hands wrong low left and a high but far right hand make a porous defence. EM should get him to box and mov enot circle and throw right hooks with the left cross everytime his man gets close. he sint boxing just rangefinding. his jab is also very lazy for a man with such a reach. i think he can get it all together. we saw what happend when witter lost to judah he became a huge puncher with just as much awkward angels form the previous jab and move fighter. he can improve and win a title i think. duddy on the other hand is not very talented has little boxing instincts only fightign heart and a decent chin (which has been buckled a bit) not much of a puncher but he does throw some nice left hooks. i dont know who can save duddy who could train him out of it?
so what if he has an unbeaten record and has over a 100 am fights. greylin curry had 300+ am fights went pro started well then fell apart. adrian dodson had over 100+ am fights becoemes prospect then falls apart. andy lee.......:roll:
very good and thought out post if andy can make the changes he can defenatly make good. but Duddy is ****. but for some reason i don't think lee will ever reach what was proffised by EM
haha you're insane mate,and since you like using the phrase 'paper mache' so much please learn how to spell it!all i was saying is that lee has showed he has the skills it was more a question of his conditioning!it can be remedied.stop trolling mate! your apparant schooling of me is totally illogical; so because james toney beat evander holyfield and evander beat tyson then surely toney could have beaten tyson? ****,toney beat rahman,rahman beat lewis so obviously he would have beaten lewis atsch stop proving yourself to be exceedingly dumb!
im saying he has the skill,which others are claiming he doesnt,you dont get to be where duddy is by being '****'!im not claiming him to be elite,im just claiming him to be a very good boxer,duddy and pavlik share common opponents and duddy has ko'd them all quicker,does this mean duddy will ko pavlik ... no,all im saying is to stop claiming duddy to be **** when he clearly is far from it ... it says alot about his talent and character that after the got cut up so bad in his last fight that he was still able to box his way to a decision in rounds 5-10! he beat ****ing howard eastman clearly also,not many elite level boxers have done that.
what the hell are you talking about .:huh uh i was using you illogical way of think to make you realize the error of your ways any how i see you your an idiot i'll edit post and put the sarcasm face so that way you invbred ass gets the point :yep