Andy Lee vs. Peter Quillin

lencoreastside · Feb 8, 2015

The poll includes an option that is impossible..."Lee onpoints". The poll needs to be deleted and redone from scratch. This time WITHOUT the "Lee on points" option...... . :yep

ashishwarrior · Feb 8, 2015

wonder if he is getting more than the 1.5 mill he turned down to defend that very title

and lee must bring more dollar than triple g to the table

ashishwarrior · Feb 8, 2015

peter quillin really is a joke of the sport

KO KIDD · Feb 8, 2015

Loving this match up

I think Quillin wins but Lee is on a tear

oiky · Feb 8, 2015

quillin won't win

lencoreastside · Feb 8, 2015

Barcham said: ↑

Quillin has already won. The fight has been bought and paid for. Lee will have to knock him out to win. I would no more put money on this fight than I would on a WWE match.
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Lees chances of winning=his chances of koing Qullin. 25% at best.

lencoreastside · Feb 8, 2015

Barcham....why did you pick Lee to win by ko in the poll?

lencoreastside · Feb 8, 2015

Barcham said: ↑

Because when the thread was made, Saunders had made it clear that he would not step aside and there was little chance of a title being on the line as Lee would have had to vacate it. With no title on the line, I believe there would have been a fair fight with Lee winning by KO.

Now that Saunders has been bought and paid for, I believe the title has also been bought and paid for and I think this fight is as predetermined as any WWE matchup.

I think Haymon is a disease on the sport and will end up killing it if he is allowed to continue.
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While I accept much of what you say, I have to point out one thing:

The unfairness of the fight impacts on Andys chances of getting a DECISION win. A PONTS win. I do feel that very strongly.

Not, as you seem to be suggesting, his chances of getting a ko win, though.
His chances of a ko remain unchanged, regardless of fair fight or unfair fight.

OldSchool Rules · Feb 8, 2015

Barcham said: ↑

I do not believe that Lee will be looking for a KO in this fight. I believe he has been paid off. While there is still a slim chance that he does catch Quillin with a shot, I think something might just pop up in a post fight urine sample. I think Haymon has bought and paid for this title and we will just have to wait for the fight to see if I am correct or not.
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Andy Lee would never throw a fight for money. Lee is probably the most honest man in the sport.

Xelloss · Feb 8, 2015

Barcham said: ↑

The fact that he chose to bypass his mandatory against Saunders, which would have been a decent payday in the UK, to fight Quillin who vacated this exact same title to avoid Korobov, is more than enough for me to doubt his integrity. Obviously money means more to him than the title does as he was ready to vacate the title to take this fight which is why Saunders decided to take the step aside pay off.

So you say he wouldn't throw a fight for money? Well he was ready to throw the title away for money and that's not that large a difference to me.
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Really? I honestly dont see it that way. If Lee beats Quillin on US network TV, he will move himself from US undercard fighter to headliner. If he beats Saunders after, he will be Ring#2 at that point and be lined up for a fight vs GGG for prob about 1.5m and WBC/WBA/WBO and Ring titles. (Cotto will have vacated by that point)

Remember he actually signed the dotted line to fight GGG once already. Right or wrong, Lee thinks he has a chance to beat anybody. Its unfair in the extreme to question his integrity at this point.

Hammer Hands · Feb 8, 2015

I really want Lee to win, but I can't say who is going to win, pickem' fight on paper.

fruitpunch · Feb 8, 2015

Xelloss said: ↑

Really? I honestly dont see it that way. If Lee beats Quillin on US network TV, he will move himself from US undercard fighter to headliner. If he beats Saunders after, he will be Ring#2 at that point and be lined up for a fight vs GGG for prob about 1.5m and WBC/WBA/WBO and Ring titles. (Cotto will have vacated by that point)

Remember he actually signed the dotted line to fight GGG once already. Right or wrong, Lee thinks he has a chance to beat anybody. Its unfair in the extreme to question his integrity at this point.
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:deal

Hating Haymon is one thing

but if you're gonna pull **** out of your ass then you better back it up with some damn evidence

There is 0 evidence that Lee would throw this fight

fruitpunch · Feb 8, 2015

Barcham said: ↑

The fact that he chose to bypass his mandatory against Saunders, which would have been a decent payday in the UK, to fight Quillin who vacated this exact same title to avoid Korobov, is more than enough for me to doubt his integrity. Obviously money means more to him than the title does as he was ready to vacate the title to take this fight which is why Saunders decided to take the step aside pay off.

So you say he wouldn't throw a fight for money? Well he was ready to throw the title away for money and that's not that large a difference to me.
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Alright. If we randomly assume that fighters will throw fights then I guess we can assume that Rubio threw his fight against Golovkin to raise Golovkins stock.

We've never seen Rubio steamrolled like that before so I guess he threw it. :nut

bluzi · Feb 8, 2015

Come on Andy deserve nothing of the bs you guys are saying, that's one of the more disgusting and degrading **** I heard and he didnt even fight.... some of the guys here got some serious issues

IntentionalButt · Feb 25, 2015

I'm watching the replay of Kid Chocolate versus Luká Konečný (and Hopkins vs. Shumenov) and it has me really leaning towards Lee by KO. :think

Konečný landed with a little bit of everything, just marching forward in a single gear headhunting from a tight guard. Quillin was hit everywhere, high, low, and from ear to ear - with jabs, double slapping left-hooks, straight lunging rights and looping overhand rights as Quillin lay back on the ropes. (which most closely mimic Lee's money punch, the right hook)

Some of those had Quillin doing the "I'm not hurt...no, really" blink and head-shake...and while Konečný was very good in his day he was never a puncher and is a 154lber, not a middleweight.

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