Andy Lee

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  1. Mazallan

    Mazallan ESB yes man Full Member

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    Andy Lee will make a good gate keeper but has nothing to worry the top 20 fighters.
     
  2. Farmboxer

    Farmboxer VIP Member Full Member

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    Andy Lee has a future, he needs a few more fights though.
     
  3. Ectoplasm

    Ectoplasm BOXING IS DEAD Full Member

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    Lee is being handled poorly. As someone said he has little direction with his career. He has fought no one of high calibre and until he does, you can't go around saying he's going to beat Pavlik. I would like to see him fight Macklin, but I honestly don't think he would survive against him at the moment.
     
  4. lucatoni08

    lucatoni08 Active Member Full Member

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    he's probably ranked inside the top 20 middleweights as it is......
     
  5. slapbangwhallop

    slapbangwhallop The Sweet Scientist Full Member

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    no.24
     
  6. iceman

    iceman Tis my Island Full Member

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    Lee bought into all the bull**** Manny was spewing amd then Vera(nothing more than a tough journeyman) handed him a big dose of reality. Lee has talent but i think Steward is all wrong for him.It looks like he is trying to turn Lee into a middleweight version of Wlad with the pawing jab there to set up the big punch. The problem is that Lee does not have one-punch KO power in his overrated left hand, his right hook yes, but not the left and his jab is useless.
    Now he realises that hard work, better stamina and gradual progress is what is needed to get to the top.He can't win a title based on his raw talent and Steward's wild assumptions. They are almost being too cautious with Lee now but at least he is getting good experience, i would like to see him step it up but his last few performances have not been too impressive. The jury is still out on Lee , i hope he does well, he's a real nice kid, i think a change of management/trainer would do him a world of good.
     
  7. Mazallan

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    But is that down to him being promoted well and having careful matchmaking or is it down to him being the 24th best middleweight in the world? I doubt Vera is the 23rd or better middle.
     
  8. lucatoni08

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    I'd say its a relatively fair position at this point in his career...
     
  9. GladiatoR

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    He's a huge hypejob.

    The white Hearns?

    :lol: :lol: :lol:
     
  10. Paddy

    Paddy ESB Founders Club Full Member

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    first things first Lee didnt by into t he "bull****" Lee is highly self critical and has never seen himself in the way Manny described him

    secondly Manny doesnt train Andy he is Andys manager and works as Head trainer for the day to day training he was being Trained by Joey Gamche then Joey and Manny had a parting of ways and Andy was trained by Anrnold "Sugar" Hill who is Mannys nephew

    Andy is now back with Joey Gamache for his fight in November

    Lees power is over rated? I would feel he doesnt use his power enough

    can you tell me the last opponent Lee fought that Lee didnt knock down atleast once?

    He uses his pawing jab to distract his opponent I agree that this is a mistake and should be employing a stiffer jab


    I agree the jury is still out in Lee but his talent is undoubted and hes still very young and has alot of time on his side. I have alot of respect for Andy


    as for his last few outings being unimpressive I will agree

    However Andy was VERY happy with his last fight that he had in america knowing andy as being the self critical monster that he is he must have been bloody good if he was happy with it.

    hes moving in the right direction we have to remember that Lee isint signed to a promoter save for Brian Peters in ireland

    So he was never going to move as quick as Amir Khan up the world rankings who has the Frank Warren Power House behind him
     
  11. Irishbc

    Irishbc Well-Known Member Full Member

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    He's much better than Duddy, and you're right if only the Irish learned from you Brits and stopped hyping every fighter that could throw a punch.

    would hardly be a mega showdown, nobody really cares about Duddy.
     
  12. lucatoni08

    lucatoni08 Active Member Full Member

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    Paddy, any footage of his last fight...Nothing on youtube apart from a video behind the scenes etc....
     
  13. 46and0

    46and0 It's irrefutable. Full Member

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    Decent enough fighter who may pick up a vacant belt here and there. He's not world class though. I wasn't impressed when he fought Brian Vera, who is essentially a pub brawler.
     
  14. iceman

    iceman Tis my Island Full Member

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    Then why wasn't he prepared for the Vera fight,over confident or bad training?
    He has decent power but nothing special,his left is overrated:deal but i do like his right hook which he doesn't use enough

    Listen, i hope the lad does well, he seems like a good kid,i'm just giving my opinion
     
  15. Farmboxer

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    Lee a future champion.