Andy Ruiz has become criminally underrated

He got up from a knockdown and then hit a reckless Joshua with an equilibrium shot from which he didn't recover. After that he lost all 12 rounds in the rematch.
Maybe that's why people think he's lucky? How silly of them.

As far as eras go - unless we have a time machine, it's nothing but a fun conversation to have, but ultimately pointless. One thing you can say for sure is that the 70s didn't leave a lot to the imagination as the big fights were made, unlike now where you have plenty of divas like Fury and less guys like Ali.... or Usyk.

 

The referee in AJ vs Ruiz II should have done his job and ordered AJ to fight or be disqualified.

But yeah. Ruiz allowed chicken**** AJ to run away from him. Ruiz barely beat Parker and lost to Luis Ortiz.

All Ruiz vs Fury would have been is a mismatch. If Ruiz is so great then he can go out there and beat some quality opposition decisively.

 

Ruiz disrespected the sport when he decided to gorge on burritos at Taco Bell rather than train to successfully defend his world titles. Usyk showed how to come in for a rematch imagine if Usyk came in with a pot belly everybody on here would be saying Eddie Hearn paid him off.

 

Joshua has unquestionably been given opportunities other fighters haven't so his accomplishments are always going to be a bit suspect unfortunately. If people don't like it they should figure out a way to stop talented fighters from getting denied opportunities. The Zhang that lost to Hrgovic may well be better than anyone Joshua beat though hard to say if he has time to prove it due to being denied opportunities in his prime years. Virtually everyone I would rate above Ruiz never had the chance to fight Joshua and likely never will fight him so we will never know what they could have made of the opportunity. But I don't think one fight 4 years ago gives Ruiz a good case for being in the top 10 given he hasn't looked impressive since.
I don't think Bakole losing to Hunter is of much relevance as Bakole is allowed subsequent improvement and Hunter never fought Ruiz.

H2H I would probably put Ruiz below
Oleksandr Usyk
Tyson Fury
Zhilei Zhang
Deontay Wilder
Filip Hrgovic
Joe Joyce
Martin Bakole
Frank Sanchez
Anthony Joshua
Lenier Pero
etc
Wladislav Sirenko also might be better

 

He's so overrated it's not even funny. He beat Joshua who was clearly in his own head the first fight and lost an uncompetitive rematch. He's literally done nothing else even remotely impressive

 

Ironic, because you've also taken a complete 180 due to the simple reason of Fury fighting him.

Stop lying to yourself. Ruiz is a cement footed 5'11 tub of jelly. Him beating aj isn't even impressive. joshua sucks. Ruiz got outboxed by dinosaur Ortiz and dropped by an ancient inactive Arreola. He has done nothing else of note. At least Rahman has a win over Corrie Sanders (who beat Wlad in 2). By your line of logic he even took him out quicker than Vitali did, but because you continue to discredit older fighters you're just going to throw this under the rug

 

Not sure how they are supposed to ever get in the mix if people won't fight them. Most top heavyweights don't seem interested in facing the best. Ortiz only has one semi-impressive win but many argue he was a top heavyweight for years, give Wilder credit for beating him and explain away his resume by saying he was ducked.

Frankly though I don't think Ruiz's recent opponents are much better if at all than the guys Bakole and others have been beating. Once upon a time Ortiz and Arreola were top 10 heavyweights but the faded versions that Ruiz fought were no more than journeyman/gatekeeper level based on recent performances. At that stage they don't seem like significantly better opponents than Stephen Shaw, Efe Ajagba, or Sergei Kuzmin. I don't think the version of Ortiz that Ruiz faced really poses much of a challenge.

 

Actually Andy Ruiz is slightly overrated, his win over AJ was kinda Lucky since aj went careless on closing fight after he knocked Andy. He lost second fight. He lost to Parker and won latly with 2 dinosaurs Areolla and Ortiz, we might say todays heavyweight is **** if he stand number 4 at boxrec, actually hes somwhere in 5-7th place.