Andy Ruiz has the best win in the heavyweight division.

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  1. Oakland Billy Smith

    Oakland Billy Smith Active Member booted Full Member

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    You can certainly make the case. What a shame he failed to capitalize on it
     
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  2. MorvidusStyle

    MorvidusStyle Active Member Full Member

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    Liposuction Vat produced a more spectacular finish than Fury's wins, but Fury has three major victories to ultimately come out on top.
    1. Wlad in Germany
    2. Wilder in Murica
    3. Wlad in the sauna
     
  3. TEAM_LOMA

    TEAM_LOMA This is Boxing Full Member

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    Beating AJ isn't that impressive
     
  4. madballster

    madballster Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    21st tank brigade Lipperland, Augustdorf. Served 1993-1994 you little redneck cretin.
     
  5. mark ant

    mark ant Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Only the best heavyweights around could do that.
     
  6. mark ant

    mark ant Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Ruiz was being outboxed until he caught AJ in the third and Fury nearly pitched a shutout v Wlad, Wilder knocked out Ruiz twice and he`s better than AJ, Ortiz is far more skilled than AJ, his head movement is far better.
     
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  7. madballster

    madballster Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I think I need to drop the conversation here, I feel sorry for bringing it up in the first place in a boxing forum as it only leads to off-topic discussion and will probably get me banned again.

    Regarding the blunting of Germany's punching power beyond 1942, see e.g. the fantastic analysis of Dr. Roman Toeppel in "Kursk 1943", specifically detailing how blitzkrieg failed to work beyond 1942 and how Germany to her own surprise was unable to generate any major full-front momentum beyond largely irrelevant local successes which were quickly contained by the Soviets.
     
  8. TEAM_LOMA

    TEAM_LOMA This is Boxing Full Member

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    AJ is overrated as hell sorry to say
     
  9. mark ant

    mark ant Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I think he looked really good in the rematch and used his reach well, that kind of power, speed and reach is a good combo.
     
  10. mark ant

    mark ant Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Germany had one of the finest war machines in history, they ran out of oil and wanted to get the oil reserves in Russia and that`s when the war was lost, Russia killed more German soldiers than the US and the Britisdh empire did.
     
  11. TEAM_LOMA

    TEAM_LOMA This is Boxing Full Member

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    Of course you're gonna look really good when your opponent literally doesn't do anything for 12 rounds
     
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  12. Arj Guy

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    Ruiz clearly has the best win. No way is Fury beating a 40 yr old past prime Klitschko a better win than beating a prime unified undefeated champion who actually knocked out Wlad.
     
  13. Arj Guy

    Arj Guy New Member Full Member

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    Yet he still has the best resume in the division. If he’s overrated then what does that say about the rest of the division?
     
  14. TEAM_LOMA

    TEAM_LOMA This is Boxing Full Member

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    Barely defeated an old Wlad KLITSCHKO who I don't know...is almost 15 years older than Joshua

    Very poor stoppage by the ref in the Takam fight (cherry pick)

    Was not impressive at all vs Parker

    Beat an old Povetkin (cherry pick)

    Destroyed by Ruiz (cherry pick gone wrong), then defeated a much heavier and unmotivated Ruiz who did absolutely nothing for 12 rounds...

    That resume might impress you but not me.
    AJ despite being a great human being is an overrated hypejob. Ruiz already exposed that.

    AJ loses to Wilder, Fury, Usyk, Dubois, and a motivated Ruiz but AJ's team will never take a trilogy fight.
     
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  15. chico g

    chico g Boxing Addict Full Member

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    The bodybuilder does have a solid resume against former world title challengers, and a semi retired world champion. But you know both Deontay and Fury would beat all his opponents if they went down the same career path. Quality over quantity.
     


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