Andy Ruiz is faster than Muhammad Ali

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  1. JackSilver

    JackSilver Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Not really. Today's heavyweights generally are so much bigger an maybe as much as 50 pounds heavier than heavyweights in Alis day so with all that extra weight, it would be hard for them to be much faster as well. Besides Ali hand and foot speed was his speciality and definitely not the norm for heavyweights in his day.
     
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  2. African Cobra

    African Cobra The Right Honourable Lord President of the Council banned Full Member

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    He is only faster than Ali when it comes to going to Burger King or McDonalds.
     
  3. elmaldito

    elmaldito Skillz Full Member

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    love to see andy ko jake paul
     
  4. Veerbone

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    Ali's hands were probably faster. It's hard to tell with film quality. Fat Andy's hands look incredibly fast in HD, but if you had HD of Ali, he would look faster.
     
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  5. Braindamage

    Braindamage Baby Face Beast Full Member

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    He is a middleweight. But I heard he's light on his feet.
     
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  6. Pugguy

    Pugguy Ingo, The Thinking Man’s GOAT Full Member

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    No big deal, I can do same…ever since I installed a custom 5 second delay on my switch though, on a bad day, I still don’t make it to my bed before the speed of dark.

    Inebriation is sometimes a factor. :confused:
     
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  7. Pugguy

    Pugguy Ingo, The Thinking Man’s GOAT Full Member

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    Shorter arms can create the illusion of being faster handed.

    Ali’s reach was a reliably measured 78”.

    Ruiz reach is listed as 74” but then Ruiz’ height is recorded as 6’2” (= 74”).

    Ruiz looks to be actually 6’ even in height, so his reach is more likely 72” and his arms do appear short.

    Guys of Ruiz size can also add to the illusion of being faster handed - in so far as being very fast “for their size”. Going back in time, check out the hand speed of Tony Tubbs - fast absolute but particularly so for his size.

    Ruiz is definitely fast handed absolute but not Ali fast, of course.

    More intimately acquainted , a number of opponents (including George Chuvalo) commented that Ali’s speed was completely unparalleled and so much more sublime when actually engaging him in the ring.

    Bob Foster said no man had a right to be as fast as Ali was.

    If he was alive today, Ali would be definitely telling a few people to wake up and apologise re this particular “bone” of contention.

    Ali: “Taco Boy faster than me? Are you crazy man? Unless we’re talking a beeline to the buffet, in that case, Andy may have me well beat!”
     
  8. slash

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  9. Barrf

    Barrf Boxing Addict Full Member

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    and you thought Ruiz looked faster? In the Williams fight, especially that finishing flurry, Ali’s hands looked as fast as a fast flyweight.

    Ruiz was pretty quick once he got going, but they weren’t the same league there.
     
  10. Barrf

    Barrf Boxing Addict Full Member

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    he was faster than he looked. And he didn’t look slow.

    those long arms were the key to those pull counters.
     
  11. JunlongXiFan

    JunlongXiFan 45-6 in Kirks Chmpionshp Boxing Predictions 2022 Full Member

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    Ruiz's one-twos, yeah. Can you time stamp the portion you're talking about if it's not any trouble?
     
  12. The G-Man

    The G-Man I'm more of a vet. Full Member

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    He's faster than Ali was for the Holmes fight.
     
  13. Babality

    Babality KTFO!!!!!!! Full Member

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    I would go as far as to say he's faster than Meldrick Taylor.
     
  14. cross_trainer

    cross_trainer Liston was good, but no "Tire Iron" Jones Full Member

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    If we do the sort of pseudoscientific voodoo people used to "prove" Ali had faster hands than Robinson, sure, why not.
     
  15. delboy82

    delboy82 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Comment of the thread
     
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