Andy Ruiz "My aim is to be 260 for the fight"

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  1. Tyson Fury Goat

    Tyson Fury Goat Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Ruiz's aim is to be 8 pounds lighter he was 268 for joshua fight

    This is ok not to much 8 pounds is really nothing at heavyweight but it will make him just that little bit faster
     
  2. roughdiamond

    roughdiamond Bebop Boxer Full Member

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    Ruiz could probably **** out 8 pounds.

    260!
     
  3. N17

    N17 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I think Ruiz will be around 255, maybe even a few pounds lighter than that.

    I think they have realised and know now that AJ couldn't cope with the handspeed and movement. They will want more mobility, get in range unload and out again.

    AJ has stripped off some muscle, not obscene amounts but he wants to be more athletic and mobile and quicker with his hands and feet.


    Ruiz knows he can take AJ's best shots and survive, AJ knows he can't take Ruiz best shots. Ruiz will just want to get inside quickly and let his hands go, AJ will want to keep it long and box behind a solid jab but also have the ability to move away from Ruiz' charges.

    They will both be lighter, they will both be quicker, I beliebe this fight could be over quickly, I don't see it going beyond halfway this time.
     
  4. vargasfan1985

    vargasfan1985 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    He can honestly be 240

    But hey, if he wins, it won’t matter
     
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  5. Aydamn

    Aydamn Dillian Whyte the REAL Boogeyman booted Full Member

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    I'm pretty sure AJ has the ability to KO Ruiz with any combination, he just didn't have a chance to get in their first as Ruiz was the faster man... and got there early.

    But Ruiz had no hesitation in admitting how hard AJ hits and how much he hurt him, you can tell by his admission than AJ hits like a truck.

    Now if AJ simply controls his tempo, and goes off on Ruiz in a more calculated way, Ruiz will get KOd imo.

    AJ said it right when he said "Ruiz was not ready to be taken out yet" and it's true, AJ needed to break him down... stew the steak.. then go for the kill.. he just underestimated Ruiz and overestimated himself. Obviously not going to do that...

    All that's needed is a minor attitude fix, lose some size, gain some speed.. and he should be A-OK
     
  6. Tyson Fury Goat

    Tyson Fury Goat Boxing Addict Full Member

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    regardless Ruiz took AJ best shots and most of all that killer right hand and still stood up that needs to be remembered
     
  7. Aydamn

    Aydamn Dillian Whyte the REAL Boogeyman booted Full Member

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    Yeah but don't act like he was the only one to take shots from AJ and survive. Plenty more have taken shots and gotten up.

    Calm down.

    One even took all the shots and didn't go down.
     
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  8. N17

    N17 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Some great points, I agree, Ruiz wasn't ripe for the taking and AJ took a liberty and paid the price.

    A couple of things that are not getting much attention and I also believe will be a huge factor is the pressure on AJ and any mental demons.

    AJ is under tremendous pressure and we can't forget he is actually coming off a stoppage loss, if he loses again then it's a long way back, a very long way back.

    Also has he shaken those demons off? AJ was dropped 4 times and stopped, people are talking like it's just a case of him changing a couple of things, being patient and taking his belts back.

    If Ruiz starts well, maybe lands a good shot, shakes AJ.. then will AJ fold? A lot of people felt he folded last time, maybe harsh but he didn't look like he wanted to continue.

    So I dont think it's just a case of AJ's physical state and tactics, I believe his mental state will probably determine the outcome.

    If AJ has genuinely overcome those mental issues then he should be a lot better in this return but Ruiz likewise will be better, just the fact he won the first fight and is now a world champion will have boosted his self belief and confidence.

    I think Ruiz should be made favourite, a slight favourite, I think when an unbeaten fighter gets beaten it either goes two way, they either come back better and more determined or they are never the same again, we saw it with fighters like Naz, something leaves them.

    Personally I am not sure AJ comes back a better fighter.
     
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  9. Tramell

    Tramell Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I think punchstats was pretty accurate for their bout which credits AJ landing less than 2 power shots in 5 of their 7 rounds.
    If accurate enough, then Ruiz only withstood one round of AJ giving his all. But I credit that to the dog in Ruiz preventing him from landing more, instead going into survival mode, whereas Ruiz went into beast mode.

    You can turn a fighter into a boxer, but rarely is it possible to turn a boxer into a fighter.
     
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  10. Aydamn

    Aydamn Dillian Whyte the REAL Boogeyman booted Full Member

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    I agree, mental demons play a huge part... I guess that's the unknown here. Economics also play a part in his motivation, how motivated can someone really be after all the success and money he has earned?

    AJ has made changes in the past, but mainly in the lead up during preparation for his fights. He boxed a certain way against Parker then he did for Povetkin or Klitckko etc etc. So he can adapt well in training, however the jury is out as to whether he can adapt in the ring... but that's a discussion for another thread.

    AJ seems to enjoy being in the limelight more than any other boxer, he seems built for living in the public eye as he does so much public work outside the ring, and is constantly representing the face of British boxing. The pressure was enormous on AJ, and it was a last minute chance which at this level of boxing is pretty critical. Ruiz Jr is no joke, and he never has been. Ruiz is completely different to Miller who was the main target on AJ's mind.

    Now that the pressure of losing is off AJ's back, he will feel more relaxed going into this in my opinion. Sure there is little return from losing the rematch, but its a great feeling coming in with something to prove. He didn't have much to fight for in the first meeting with Ruiz, AJ is a fighter at heart, and he has just been given a reason to wage war.

    Expect AJ to come in highly motivated, and far more calculated then the first. From everything I've seen from AJ, the guy likes revenge stories... he likes getting his own back... he is competitve by nature... that's why he got off the canvas so many times against Ruiz... guy just don't like to quit.

    Ruiz is the one that needs to be careful, because the tide has changed... now Ruiz is on top... enjoy the money... he has reached where he wanted to be... but how much does he want to remain champion? Thats a different question entirely.

    Tyson Fury was so motivated to become champion, but when he got there he shrugged his shoulders and asked himself... what now??? Next thing you know, he walks away.

    AJ is not that type, he is in it for the legacy.
     
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    Hi-Tek-Lomo Well-Known Member Full Member

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  12. bruce_keyes

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    LOL at people worrying Ruiz will lose too much weight. You honestly think that losing a fat gut will somehow affect your punch power? like seriously? he should be coming in at 230, looking like Povetkin.
     
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  13. chico g

    chico g Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Needs to be around the same weight as the first fight. A drained deflated blob will be easier to pick off. The bodybuilder will come in more prepared, and juiced up to the eye balls!
     


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