Andy Ruiz v. Rocky Marciano

You are talking nonsense arguing against cases that I have not made!

 

But you can't name them? Their ko's are over nobodies! Take a look FFS!

 

We know Williams was a top drawer puncher. Just as we know that at Heavyweight Mathews was not!

 

Williams has 16 fights at the time Mathews over 80! You guys are unbelievable!

 

I did name them you chose to not care lol. I gave you the averages. They aren’t really up for debate. I don’t know what else you would like? I stated Marciano never faced that killer of the generation because he was the killer. His opponents (only counting ten round fights) KO percentage average was 46 pct. that is not disputable nor is it disputable the average fighter of the top 160 fighters opponents registered a 31 percent KO rate. This is not arguable unless you want to yell at the sky about it.

 

Why are you mentioning Wilder I haven't?
Marciano has a ton of dross on his record.Moore has a ton of dross on his record.These are irrefutable facts.
I'm not talking about the odd gimmee, I'm referring to long lines of no hopers!

 

Anyone can rack up a high ko percentage if they are fighting tough men nobodies as they were! Its the Lamar Clark syndrome!

 

Not at HW he isn't.

 

Not really sure what you’re getting at? I gave you the averages. Marciano’s opponents overall were about average maybe slightly less when compared to other greats and good fighters. I think you have way to high a ceiling for Marciano that you don’t tend to put towards other fighters. Luckily we have great stats of fighters and can clearly see real results. Marciano doesn’t have the accomplishments of a Louis Or Ali or Liston but he pretty much ranks right up there with the rest.

 

Wilder was one of many I mentioned

 

Marciano's opponents had a total of 117 stoppage losses when he fought them. And a total of 536 losses!

 

You really just don’t get it or you’re so set in your ways you refuse to learn something new. He faced no less better or worse competition then the n most good to great fighters. Once again it’s all in the stats. Like I’ve repeatedly said his competitor is SLIGHTLY less then average as far as quality and prime opponents. They weren’t all gimmes.

 

Mitchell
Simmons
Eatman
Richards
Dominic
Digorgio
Louthis
Haft
Evans
Walls
Donato
Pretzie
Ferron
Connolly
Jefferson
Cardone
Hardeman
Jackson
Edwards
Billazarian
Epperson
Twenty one Marciano opponents who were basically gimmees in mismatches.

Twenty one from46 =nearly 50%!
Sixteen of Marciano's opponents retired immediately after their fights with him.
Five of them were light heavies.
Eight were at or under 180lbs.
Pal,Im not learning anything from you about Rocco Francis Marchegiano.

 

I want you to look at the opponents they amassed their kayo percentages against ,something you have persistently refused to do!

 

Once again you can compare Marcianos record to anyone barring Ali and Louis. His completion was only SLIGHTLY below average. That’s when compared to everyone. But thag being said he still knocked out almost all of them. That’s what’s not going through your head. You think Marciano is the only one when he is one of many. But out of the many he stood out. Wether you admit it or not is not really important. It’s like your telling me a baseball players batting average isn’t what it is but I’m trying to tell you what it is and you don’t care. That’s on you.