Andy Ruiz v. Rocky Marciano

Discussion in 'Classic Boxing Forum' started by NoNeck, Dec 9, 2019.


Who wins?

  1. Ruiz ko

    23 vote(s)
    35.9%
  2. Marciano ko

    41 vote(s)
    64.1%
  1. mcvey

    mcvey VIP Member Full Member

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    Nearly half his record are gimmees! You have a closed mind that does not take into account the quality of the opposition. But you can see it in the other thread and also no doubt ignore it.
     
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  2. Gazelle Punch

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  3. mcvey

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    I have the concept of Marciano's opponents records, a dvd collection of his fights, and 3 books on him to go by.
     
  4. Gazelle Punch

    Gazelle Punch Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Once again compare his record to OTHER fighters over all and you’ll see it’s not much different then the rest of them. Not to mention it’s not like he dropped any of these fights. I don’t know what your trying to argue at this point. I pointed you in the right direction if you don’t believe me.
     
  5. NoNeck

    NoNeck Pugilist Specialist

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    He could’ve lost to LaStarza and it would have been a draw with modern scoring.
     
  6. Gazelle Punch

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    No tape exists of the fight and he won the fight and dropping a fight to Lastarza wouldn’t have been the worst thing. Probably the equivalent of dropping one to Rahman or Douglas
     
  7. NoNeck

    NoNeck Pugilist Specialist

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    He won because the referee overruled the judges. That can’t happen today.
     
  8. Gazelle Punch

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    Well there arent 15 round fights today so he would have never beat Walcott the first time. Maybe Holyfield never beats Bowe if the fan man didn’t come? Or maybe Vitali beats Lewis If the fight was fifty years sooner? Can’t go by what if’s. He was deemed the winner by rules at the time can only go by that.ref could have deemed it a draw but didn’t
     
  9. NoNeck

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    None of those “what if’s” would exist if he were more dominant. Vitali Klitschko, for example, does not have any “what if’s” in his win column.
     
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  10. Gazelle Punch

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    Don’t know how you can be more dominant. 49-0 88pct KO percentage average KO in ten round fights 4.9. Hard to be more dominant unless your name is Foreman Or Liston or Luis
     
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  11. NoNeck

    NoNeck Pugilist Specialist

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    Tyson, Wlad, Holmes....These guys and others were more dominant against better championship level opponents.
     
  12. Gazelle Punch

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    Actually they weren’t.
     
  13. The Morlocks

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    Lies. Nothing more. You have no shame. No integrity or honor. I doubt you even know what the words mean. A hyena is all you are.
     
  14. NoNeck

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    “...referee Watson had Marciano winning 9-6, so Marciano was awarded a split decision.”
     
  15. The Morlocks

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    You made it sound like the judges didnt count. That is just a case of the ref judging too.