Andy Ruiz v. Rocky Marciano

Discussion in 'Classic Boxing Forum' started by NoNeck, Dec 9, 2019.


Who wins?

  1. Ruiz ko

    23 vote(s)
    35.9%
  2. Marciano ko

    41 vote(s)
    64.1%
  1. choklab

    choklab cocoon of horror Full Member

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    Yeah I agree. I have edited the post to make it more understandable.

    I also don’t think Willard or Carnera would be that competitive against a great modern cruiserweight. And this proves my point. Because most believe Willard and Carnera would be competitive against Tyson Fury.

    If nobody gives super heavyweight champions Willard or Carnera a chance against a great cruiserweight and we have seen all other great super heavyweight champions suffer horrible upset knockouts and humbling stoppage defeats that nobody predicted...what makes being a giant heavyweight that big of a factor against great heavyweight champions?
     
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  2. mcvey

    mcvey VIP Member Full Member

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    I certainly don't agree with the underlined!
     
  3. janitor

    janitor VIP Member Full Member

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    This is more or less true, but there were quite a few big heavyweights in the rankings at the time.

    Marciano did not fight them, because the cuties of the era beat them.

    So while Marciano wasn't fighting big men, he was fighting the small men who beat the big men.

    It was still an unlimited division, and I don't see any sense in measuring it against a weight class that hadn't even been thought of back then.

    What was the significance of 200lbs or 190lbs as a number back then?

    Nothing!
     
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  4. janitor

    janitor VIP Member Full Member

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    In Holyfield's case I would agree.

    I am impressed by Usky, but I would like to see him in against bigger men before I hand it to him on a plate!
     
  5. George Crowcroft

    George Crowcroft He Who Saw The Deep Full Member

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    Watch him in the Ams, he handled big men easily.
     
  6. janitor

    janitor VIP Member Full Member

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    It is still the amateurs.

    What I am saying is why be in a hurry?

    We are obviously never going to see Rocky Marciano fight somebody like Willard or Carnera, so we have to call it now based on the evidence we have.

    In Usky's case his next few fights should constrain the pick a bit more.
     
  7. NoNeck

    NoNeck Pugilist Specialist

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    You’re assuming men at 200 do not also fight heavyweights today. That is false.
     
  8. The Morlocks

    The Morlocks Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    How do you underline on a phone?
     
  9. NoNeck

    NoNeck Pugilist Specialist

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    Like this.
     
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  10. PhillyPhan69

    PhillyPhan69 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    don’t tell him....Please!
     
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  11. George Crowcroft

    George Crowcroft He Who Saw The Deep Full Member

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