Andy Ruiz vs James Toney (HW)

Ruiz is far better at heavy than Toney was, Ruiz is far better than Peter was, AJ would have beaten Peter and Toney they were both too slow at heavy and Toney`s reach wasn`t long enough, he wasn`t a good come forward short armed heavy like Ruiz is.

 

The version of James Toney at HW up through the first Rahman fight would've beaten Andy.

 

Winner would be the overweight champion of the world.

 

Andy would win because he has a good jab and Toney didn't like those. Juiced outnof his eyeballs Toney from the Holyfield fight would be live though.

 

The entire idea that Ruiz is better than Peter is based off of his win against Joshua who we now know was nothing special. Peter had wlad shitting his pants I believe he could have beaten Joshua. Toney had very good handspeed at heavy and Ruiz style is tailor made for toney. Toney also had a 72" reach to ruiz 74".

 

A 38 year old Maskaev gave a prime Peter about as many issues as Joshua gave Ruiz. A just as old McCline gave him more problems.

 

Threads like these are pointless. All it is going to do is draw one's bias out.

 

Ruiz

 

AJ is far more skilled than Peter was.

 

A focused and a motivated James Toney is literally a huge upgrade from Andy Ruiz Jr. James Toney's boxing skills are on a much higher level. He'd near clean out today's heavyweight division with only a few exceptional losses that he'd suffer. And I don't think Ruiz is going to be that opponent to hand him the loss.

Andy Ruiz Jr is basically a poor man's James Toney with only the power advantage and maybe in durability too. In every other department, James Toney is superior. Toney is slicker, quicker, faster (in hand and movement speed), better timing, better accuracy, better counter-punching skills and so forth so on.

I'd expect James Toney to give Andy Ruiz Jr a proper boxing lesson like he did to Evander Holyfield. That's assuming he comes in serious. A non-serious James Toney would lose as he often does, like against Rahman.

 

Toney was not quicker than Ruiz is while punching and Ruiz is far more powerful.

 

So now we got Ward and Tony with virtual wins over Ruiz!

 

Difference is, Toney has fought at heavyweight and has beaten an all time great in Holyfield whilst Ward hasn't. So that doesn't apply to Toney.

It's no different from me claiming Ruiz has a 'virtual win' over Toney.