Angelo Dundee: Best I've trained

Discussion in 'Classic Boxing Forum' started by TheGreatA, Sep 26, 2010.


  1. Addie

    Addie Myung Woo Yuh! Full Member

    42,502
    401
    Jun 14, 2006
    I think we have people foaming at the mouth over spilled milk.

    Burt discredited Muhammad Ali, manbearpig discredited Jack Dempsey.

    We're quick to point out that what Burt said wasn't particularly offensive, but what exactly did manbearpig say. He said, "Ali > Dempsey up yer".

    As I say, spilled milk.
     
  2. Addie

    Addie Myung Woo Yuh! Full Member

    42,502
    401
    Jun 14, 2006
    That's what I got from what he said, too.

    I'd have rather he just said "Leonard > Ali up yer".
     
  3. Bokaj

    Bokaj Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

    28,139
    13,095
    Jan 4, 2008
    But he can phrase it a lot better, though. I also thought Burt was way off in implying that Ali was some showboating primadonna, but it's not necessary to use insults to make that clear.
     
  4. Johnstown

    Johnstown Boxing Addict banned

    5,695
    12
    Aug 30, 2010

    He never ****ing said all smoke and mirrors....he "a lot of ali's rep was glitz, bouncing around without throwing punches, leg skipping etc.
    Leonard for his prime was the real McCoy" all of what he said is true..other then maybe Leonard being more real...ali proved to be very effective..but he did have rougher fights then people today remember...ever watch the doug jones fight genius...ali straight up lost that.
     
  5. Addie

    Addie Myung Woo Yuh! Full Member

    42,502
    401
    Jun 14, 2006
    Sure, but I was willing to dismiss what both of them had said until we had an absolute outrage at what manpearbig had said. They both discredited two great fighters, and yet eyes were turned when the old timer did it.
     
  6. manbearpig

    manbearpig A Scottish Noob Full Member

    3,255
    134
    Feb 6, 2009
    Which isn't wrong or right. But implying Muhammad wasn't 'the real deal' is just stupidity. Older doesn't mean wiser.
     
  7. Addie

    Addie Myung Woo Yuh! Full Member

    42,502
    401
    Jun 14, 2006
    I now understand why you've taken such a strong stance against what manpearbig has said. You're not a big fan of Muhammad ali are you?
     
  8. Johnstown

    Johnstown Boxing Addict banned

    5,695
    12
    Aug 30, 2010

    i think my real mccoy..if you read that post and the ones that followed..he ment real number one..and you can make a argument leonard was better then ali....that isnt a insane argument.
     
  9. manbearpig

    manbearpig A Scottish Noob Full Member

    3,255
    134
    Feb 6, 2009
    Read between the lines in what he's saying. It's pretty clear what he's inferring.
     
  10. Bokaj

    Bokaj Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

    28,139
    13,095
    Jan 4, 2008
    Well, Burt obviously took the "up yer" personally, so why not just apologize for that and get on with it? Getting on with it was I'll do, anyhow.
     
  11. manbearpig

    manbearpig A Scottish Noob Full Member

    3,255
    134
    Feb 6, 2009
    We've cracked it.
     
  12. Johnstown

    Johnstown Boxing Addict banned

    5,695
    12
    Aug 30, 2010
    he did lose to doug jones honey..go watch the fight..i have..have you?
     
  13. Addie

    Addie Myung Woo Yuh! Full Member

    42,502
    401
    Jun 14, 2006
    :good Just needed that confirmed.

    Where do you get off calling me honey, baby?
     
  14. manbearpig

    manbearpig A Scottish Noob Full Member

    3,255
    134
    Feb 6, 2009
    Yeah that's why you're being a *****. You don't like Muhammad Ali.
     
  15. Johnstown

    Johnstown Boxing Addict banned

    5,695
    12
    Aug 30, 2010

    i think you can put ali in the top 5 p4p of all time..and i think you should make him a favorit over dempsey..though i dont think it would be a easy fight. i also think that allot of kids have watched the highlight reels of ali..and have seen the will smith movie..and dont realize he was in tough fights even in his prime...he got knocked on his ass by cooper and was saved by the bell..he was given a gift by jones. does that make dempsey better? no..because dempsey lost fights. the point is you can point out weakness in ali...he wasnt perfect...i am not old..i am 31..but i am enough of a student of boxing to know this...but some on this thread maybe are not.