Angelo Dundee helps Haye in preparations for Wlad.

it wont help

 

:rofl:rofl:rofl

 

cruiserweight is 200lb you moron.

and if you think 10lb's doesn't make a difference you really dont know anything about boxing and might as well go and slit your wrist and do the boxing world a favor and get rid of another dumb ass.

 

WRONG. Not even close. Wlad learned from that fight.. to never EVER underestimate your opponent.

Wlad of today would KO Sanders

 

:roflatsch

Haye would not even engage with Valuev.

 

waldo wouldn't engage with ibragimov.


btw waldo is a glass jawed jokes whos been floored 14 times yet you the so called chinchecker supports him!

 

all rise for king david.

 

Of course 200 lbs is CW you clown. And no the 4.5kg mean jack**** but that's the weight Haye bulked up from CW. It's extremely easy for a disciplined athlete like himself to lose 4 kg without endangering his stamina and conditioning.

It's quite pitiful you're dumb enough to buy into the weight-drain lie. Don't you clown ever dare to attack the "Wlad was poisoned" posters. You're just as dumb as them!

 

Cruiserweight is 200lbs.

Besides, even if Haye only weighed 202lbs for his heavyweight fights, some fighters just can't cut weight. It's their genetics which mean that they can't cut as much as other fighters. One boxer may be severely drained cutting 10lbs whereas another could cut 20lbs and be fine, such as Margarito.

Haye was weight drained for the latter part of his cruiserweight career apart from the Maccarinelli bout because he didn't get out of shape for that. In between fights, he bulks up but he was strong against Macca because he didn't allow himself to do that, making sure he could make the weight fine.

He was obviously drained. He said so for years before moving up to heavyweight, even when he was winning. He always maintained that he didn't feel strong at the weight. Why would it be a lie?

And for the people mentioning the Pacquiao/De La Hoya fight, even the best jockey can't make a donkey win the Grand National. It's irrelevant. De La Hoya was done and faced a horrible opponent for him in Pacquiao. It was a disaster, with or without Dundee. Apart from that, the De La Hoya/Pacquiao fight just happens to be his most recent involvement in a major fight but it doesn't discount the other decades of boxing knowledge he's amassed. He's a genius of boxing and has forgotton more than anyone on here knows. Anyone who genuinely thinks he has nothing to add because De La Hoya lost, is truly an idiot.

 

Was Valuev leaning back half way out of the Ring? Hell no. Valuev was coming forward and Haye was running the whole fight scared of a guy slow as molasses and with no speed or any real skill.

 

You say that Haye "bulked up" but in your previous post, you mentioned he weighed 210lbs on fight night at cruiser and 210lbs on fight night at heavyweight. How exactly is that bulking up?

And, no, it's not easy for an athlete to lose 10lbs of water weight. That's just ridiculous to say and boxing history is full of guys who couldn't lose 10lbs if they wanted to.

 

Now consider than 80% of Haye's career is outside of HW, then do some more math.

 

I am not objecting that Haye found it hard to make the weight, on time every time. But does it make a difference to his chin and terrible stamina at CW? Nope.

What I am objecting to is that his alleged "CW weight-drain" somehow reduced his punch resistance at CW and now at HW all that is magically swept away.

He had naturally shitty stamina and punch resistance at CW and nothing has changed in that department at HW. The first big HW punch he takes he'll kiss the floor. Haye knows that and everybody else does, too.

When will the Haye fans stop using the "weight drain" fairy tale to excuse his naturally terribly punch resistance? It's so pathetic. Just as pathetic as the Wlad fans who try to find excuses for his crappy chin.

 

Haye hasn't even fought a legit Heavyweight puncher yet. His opponents at Heavyweight average almost 38 years old which is pitiful. This is a complete con job. Haye has no Chin and no Heart. None. Typical British Hype Job.

 

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