another example of the mayweather pacman double standard...

What? He took on Zab the former WW linear champ in his second fight at 147:deal

 

Go watch the fight and then tell me if he was done.

 

if pacman fought at 147 and stayed there without fighting the top guys, pac would be getting the same flak from boxing fans. now, if pac stayed at 140 without doing anything, he would also get the ire of the fans. as it is, he doesn't need to fight mosley who is a bonifide welterweight. pac has the right to just wait and fight straight for the winner floyd-jmm especially now that he is planning on retiring soon.

 

Pacquiao has never claimed to be a welterweight. He has had one fight there, a special event with a special payday. Therefore he is not obligated to fight every welterweight or prove he's the best at that weight.

Floyd on the other hand has claimed Welterweight supremacy (lets forget about the bogus "retirement") for years while never fighting any top welterweights . Mosley is now the #1 welterweight, having been in the ring with many names that Floyd was keen to avoid. He fought to a virtual standstill with Cotto (a fight I thought he won 115-113), and KO'd Margo who KO'd Cotto. Yet Floyd still claims he's the best while still taking on non-welterweight fighters.

So Floyd CAN'T make the next weight lower. Floyd WONT fight the top fighters in his supposed division that is his lowest possible weight class. And he wants to be recognized as THE BEST FIGHTER IN THE WORLD IN ANY WEIGHT. If you can't see the hypocrisy in this claim there is nothing I can say to you. There is no double standard.

So bust out the old arguments...

He fought Hatton (forced him to come up to 147 where Hatton was obviously ineffective, Pac beat him at his best weight where he was Ring Champion),

He fought DLH (dodged a SD bullet there, lucky DLH lost his jab in 7-12),

Baldomir was a "Top Welterweight" because he was champion

etc.

 

Go watch Pea-Oscar or Pea-Tito and tell me he was done. He was a great fighter and game but clearly past his best much like Rivera was.

 

Yea, his second fight. It still took floyd one fight to get accustomed to the weight according to you and the other floyd followers. So, don't you think Marquez not fighting a journeyman or lesser fighter at WW will hurt him, especially when he has never fought at 140. I mean, if floyd couldn't do it, why should we expect Marquez to be able to do it?

 

Let me claer it up for you:

Floyd's been a Welterweight since 2005 and still is and has ducked Mosley, among others.

Pacquiao was only a Welterweight for 1 match and went down to Light Welterweight and is now fighting there.

What I'm trying to say is Mayweather is ducking Mosley because he is in the same weight class and not fighting the best, not only that but he's dragging a career Featherweight and current Lightweight up to 147 to fight him insted of fighting Mosley, Cotto, Williams, etc.

Pacquiao is not ducking Mosley, Cotto and all them bacause he's in a different weight class and has no bisness what so ever in Welterweight.

 

you can try to twist things around but the fact remains that Mosley had two fights at welter before he faced DLH and one of those fights was the hardest fight of his career up to that point,while JMM is moving up two divisions to a weight he never fought at they´re two diferent situations.

 

Judah was never anything special at WW he even almost lost to old man Pineda there for **** sake.

 

Let me clear something up for you. PBf has been chasing Molsey for years. PBF offered a fight to Shane but was was shane who turned him down to get his tooth fixed and go on vacation with his family in this video 6:00 minute mark:deal

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3_IGuj0C1hU




Second. PBF never claimed he was a WW or going to clean out the division. What he did say was he was the best in the world and would beat anyone from 154 and down. His sole reason for moving up to 147 was to chase Zab get his title and get a big money fight with Oscar not clean out the division like so many of you think.:deal Get your ****ing facts straight before going off half cocked.:hi:

 

He was undisputed at 147. What he did there was special. A lot of fighters almost lose the fact is he was champ there is a huge accomplishment that can't be taken away from him because it doesn't help your argument. Margo was at 147 for years and he never got close to being a champ.

 

He was at the right place at the right time but he was never anything special at WW he lost to Spinks,lost to Baldomir almost lost to old man Pineda had Margo got the same breaks he wouldve been Champ there too.

 

I think it's more than popularity as Floyd is as popular if not more than Pac. The fact is Floyd is a legit WW fighting a small LW instead of Moseley who is a WW like himself while Pac is a small LWW and rightly, should be fighting a LWW like him.

 

Mosley's targeting of Pac is purely for financial gain and Pac isn't calling out anyone at the moment. So it cannot be considered ducking if they're in two different weight classes and Mosley is pushing to make some easy paper.

Also, certain obvious points need to be cleared up here.

- Mosley is the current Welterweights Champ and should be defending his title against other Welterweights.

Issue: If current Champs are going to publicly state that they only want big money fights - where does that leave the division? Is this where we are in boxing ?? I fight for big paper or not at all ??

The situation is this {Mosley has to accept reality} HBO, Top Rank, The {insert name here} Vegas Casino and many other power-broker affiliates of boxing are ON-BOARD for a {PBF vs Pac-Man} match-up. That is the BIGGEST matchup that can be made and it represents a HUGE money making opportunity for every one involved.

Mosley is trying to inject himself into the equation by making noise in the media .... but the powers that be are already on another page. And instead of Mosley acting like a crack-head needing a fix ... he should be trying to increase his image to the point where his name is being mentioned as a BIG money making fighter. Because at present .... He Isn't.

LIKE IT OR NOT .... Floyd is the choosen money-maker for many of the power-brokers in boxing. And right now those power-brokers are on-board for a {PBF vs. Pac-Man} fight. Mosley has to accept that reality.

 

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One would think that with the news of its biggest star coming out of retirement to once again join the ranks of the elite’s that its writers, experts, critics and fans would welcome them back with open arms and wrap their arms around them and beg that they stay much like an ending of Full House (you remember that show right? The one where three single guys lived together helping take care of the one’s three daughters and calling them selves Uncle Jesse and Uncle Joey that always ended up having drama or problems but always ended up giving each other a big hug and kiss at the end of each episode; ones that would make the Partridge family jealous) but that isn’t the case when it comes to boxing for some strange reason.

Take a look at Basketball for example, Michael Jordan came back what twice and was greeted with open arms, Hockey was the same way when Mario Lemieux ended a 3 ½ year layoff to rejoin the Pittsburgh Penguins the league, its players and its fans were thrilled to have such a wonderful piece of its history return so that possibly a new generation of fans could enjoy watching them play. For some reason most Boxing fans, critics and writers have no problem bashing Mayweather for coming back and fighting a tough guy like Marquez. Is it because they wanted him to come back and fight Pacquiao right away? How about Shane Mosley or Miguel Cotto?


Whatever the reason may be we can always be sure of one thing when it comes to Mayweather, whoever he fights he should always be fighting someone else, there will always be a different challenger and it seems as if most in the sport wish he could just get in the ring and whack 5 guys a night. This only seems to come into play when the name Floyd Mayweather, Jr is brought up. For example lets take a look at the guy most want to see Mayweather match up against next Manny Pacquiao. For his part Manny has had a good past 17 months in Mayweather’s absence having claimed the mythical P4P number ranking in the world a title some feel he deserves and a title some feel is a paper title having seen Mayweather walk away undefeated. In his past 2 fights the Pacman has gobbled up future Hall of Famer Oscar De la Hoya and the ever popular Ricky Hatton of England on his way to around between 1.8 and 2 million PPV buys (depending on your source) by far the most in a 2 fight span in Mayweather’s absence. My problem with those two fights isn’t the numbers rather the hype and stature Pacquiao has gotten from the fights considering Floyd Mayweather fought the same guys back to back in 2007 and did almost double the numbers including a record 2.5 million buys and over 19 million in live gate in less than an hour. Pacquiao’s promoter Bob Arum has recently laughed at a 60/40 split in Mayweather’s favor stating that Manny deserves