We know what needs improvement, which all that does can be easily fixed with the right trainer and is expected to get fixed, but on top of his speed, solid power, timing, combinations, lateral movement and reflexes, he's strong as hell.... Did anybody notice how he tossed Jimenez, who's a pretty strong fighter, down like he was a little child?:yep Gamboa's like a Spartan, needs the final touches polished though, which can be fixed in a year or less and then he'll be unstoppable. As it stands now, even with no adjustments, he's way too much for everybody at 126, a weight he can make. They just don't have the power, size or strength to handle the guy. 130 pounders get a bit bigger, as do 135's obviously, so against the 126 crop, whom I don't think will handle his swarming, speed and power well and don't have the firepower to keep him honest even as it stands now with his hands down style, he'd become undisputed easily. Defensive adjustments will make him unstoppable at 130 and 135, but they do seriously need to be made. Defence and tacticality are his only issue's, he'll get more intelligent as he fights on and gains pro experience, the pro game is very different from the AM's. But his strength is amazing, seriously. This guy is probably the strongest I've seen at the weight range in a long time.
No way, Pac uses his speed and power and explodes on people, he's not very strong in a clinch realistically, not like this. Pac is pretty strong, but he's not strong in the way that he can manhandle people in clinching and other rough housing. Gamboa P4P is strong like Cotto, remember how Cotto lifted up Urkal?:yep I'm talking about physical strength. Not skill, power or other factors.
He is VERY strong indeed, with insane speed and stamina to boot. I just can't say enough about this guy....minus the flash KD on saturday I don't see how anyone could say that it was a bad performance
gamboa may have a big upper body but his legs are quite small for a man of his build. maybe that's why he gets floored by C-level punchers w/ decent power. pac, on the other hand, has massive, tree trunk-like legs for a man of his size. that helps him stay up even when getting hit by elite, strong punchers.
I think people are understimating Jimenez's performance. He is a pretty good fighter too. Quick, good defense, decent snap, and a hell of a chin. I think its good that it went the whole ten rounds. It shows Gamboa has good stamina. A weakness i saw is that he focused on the head too much and didnt really go to the body much. That is an amateur thing of course but he should snap out of that soon.
i will like to see him go to the body more and i think his left hook needs some improvement but he is an awesome fighter a future p4p star sure
Yeah, Gamboa's stamina is now proven to throw down hard for 12 rounds. Like I said, the guy is still the massive potential that we have stated, he proved a hell of a lot during Jimenez and his defensive flaws are just that of an overconfident, new professional fighter that will be ironed out. Guzman had similiar features early on and then sharpened up nicely to be very slippery. Gamboa proved stamina and chin, now we just need tactical finesse and defensive sharpening and we've got our new God.:good
Yes, that falls under 'tacticality improvement'. Defence and tactical improvement(experience and ring intelligence) will be this guys ticket to the top, he's got EVERYTHING else. I was concerned about the chin, but he took those shots from a guy who can hit pretty good flush very well.
Well, I think I got my major concern answered, and my suspicions confirmed; Gamboa is so much about all-offence, and knocking the other guy out asap, which has worked wonders thus far, but as soon as he met someone who could deal with it, he doesn't shine as much. However, I do think that this match was a good one for Gamboa. Why? 1) I think they will slow down his march to the top a bit, which will give Gamboa time to perfect or at least hone his abilities. It will be needed once he steps up to the absolute top level. Because fighting with full onslaught will only get you so far. 2) Gamboa just went his first full 10 round pro fight, which is very educational for him, rather than punching guys out immediately. 3) Amateur fights is a different ball park than pro boxing, and Gamboa needs to adjust. Even if he has alot of fighting experience. I still hope I am wrong that Gamboa could be another Vargas, but lets see...
People forget that it wasn't too long ago that everyone thought Cotto would never be an elite from his KD against Torres. He shaped up nicely, I would say
But in retrospect, people seem to forget that he crucified the guy and that the guy wasn't bad at all, a very durable fringe contender who won his only round via that KD, which was a temple shot and lasted all of 2 seconds, then he lost the rest of the round badly, even getting stunned himself. 9 rounds to 1 is a very good score in his 10th over a fringe contender, while showing the need for some sharpenings. I think by the end of the year, we'll see a more complete Gamboa, who hones his physical attributes much more tactically. But as to the point the thread, the guy is strong as **** no? He tossed Jimenez down with little effort and man-handled him easily. Jimenez is not a weak guy by any means.
Forgot to mention that this fight was also quite good, because his overconfidence in his abilities could very well be his downfall. At least thats how I portray his showboating(even if he does have great awareness, and reflexes).
Right, one idiot said 'he'll be the next Gatti, that's it'. Good call.:yep And Gamboa is being made out like he struggled. He won almost every round and got tagged hard a few times in each, wow, struggle. Jimenez on other hand looked torn up badly. People were just surprised he looked human after our hyping, but he won't look human for long guys. People are so moronic sometimes, not being able to differentiate between surprise and reality. Sure, you are surprised he looked less than a god right now, more like a god in the making, but this doesn't mean he did worse than he did. The comparisons to Khan as a prospect irritate me to no end by the way, it's not comparable. Khan hasn't even fought a guy as dangerous as Jimenez, the one former titlist he faced was an undersized guy moving from featherweight, with no punch at that weight. I'll take a larger fringe contender with a punch and a great chin over an undersized boxer type with no danger, as a test for a prospect, because the guy with the punch and the chin with fringer skills will try his best to get in there and take you out, while the smaller defensive fighter is just coming to survive.
Yes, Gamboa does have strength, speed, precision, reflexes, and does remind somewhat of a RJJ in some aspects. Even in the bad. But using his strength and speed is what he does to bully the opponents. The question is, what will he do, when he is no longer the stronger? What will he do, when someone of Pacman speed counters his full-attack tactics... Yes, Gamboa and team needs to level their heads, and realize that Gamboa is a diamond in the rough, and needs to be nurtured right, or his mind will most likely crumble when he gets brutalized. By nurtured I don't mean tomato cans on end, but a natural progression of types of fighters and ability/skill. Setting Gamboa up to fight a top 5 boxer by the end of this year, is not a good idea, imho, as you have suggested in the recent past.