Another Shogun vs Machida Type of Decision?

Discussion in 'MMA Forum' started by rekcutnevets, Nov 14, 2009.


  1. chimba

    chimba Off the Somali Coast Full Member

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    Vera needs to stop fighting because he really doesnt want to. And his ****ing cardio sucks ass. My God what kind of training does he do??

    This is the biggest waste of talent in MMA, but he talks so damn much. Everytime this guy lets go of his hands and feet someone gets hurt.. Sylvia, Werdum, Jardine but he has a quota for kicks during a fight, I think its 2 per round. 6 total

    I gave it to Randy 3-0. Ones a fighter, ones ..I dont know what the **** he is
     
  2. jimmie

    jimmie Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I mentioned that earlier the guy just doesnt work hard enough in his fights and apparently his training. IMO if he really stepped it up he would have one loss right now to Werdum. You cant teach determination though and Randy Couture has always had that regardless of whatever some assholes will say about him. Randy 46 years old and still a bad mother****er but im waiting for someone to say his record is 17-10 so he is overatted and sucks.
     
  3. Beebs

    Beebs Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Vera is a great striker, a very good defensive wrestler (maybe offensively too, I haven't seen), and a very good BJJ guy; his problem is putting it together.
     
  4. chimba

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    Even in the werdum fight he got werdum rocked standing up.. seriously, hes become so frustrating to watch he should just quit.

    or better yet someone should just knock him out flat. Another frustrating thing is hes got a good chin so i cant hope for that happening
     
  5. tri-pod

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    :nod He is like the Zab Judah of MMA.

    All that talent wasted.
     
  6. Rangersfan1982

    Rangersfan1982 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I was there and all the people around me was shocked when they called Randy's name. I'm a big Couture fan and I thought Verra won the fight.
     
  7. chimba

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    But Judah does the chicken dance. So in a way, it doesnt gall you as much coz he does get what he deserves sometimes. Vera loses close fight or controversial ones liek the Werdum fight. He needs to get layed out
     
  8. tri-pod

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    Tell him to move up to heavyweight and feed him to Lesnar. :deal
     
  9. achillesthegreat

    achillesthegreat FORTUNE FAVOURS THE BRAVE Full Member

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    2 rounds to 1 was not a poor decision at all. This was not a robbery.
     
  10. jimmie

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    Yup its only a robbery when you can say the losing CLEARLY won 2 of the 3 rounds. The 1st 2 rounds are split as we know then you get to the 3rd and Couture controls most of it from the clinch but also kinda whoops Vera with alot of dirty boxing, good clinch range elbows and some decent hand combos. Vera has the TD straight into a brief mount where he did no damage. Credit to Vera for taking it where he wanted to, could go either way but Randy got it.
     
  11. achillesthegreat

    achillesthegreat FORTUNE FAVOURS THE BRAVE Full Member

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    I thought Couture controlled it from the clinch. It was Hopkinsesque. He's old and he controlled the fight. Never let it become a young mans fight based on durability, speed, reflexes etc Got close and dirty boxed him. Other than the kicks to the midsection and a few moments at the end of the fight, I didn't think Vera did well at all. The kicks were brillant but his brief mount was not really impressive. It was only cos the nothing happened that it is being noticed.
     
  12. jimmie

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    Yeah the mount isnt very impressive but its not even like he had to use technique to pass Randy's guard, the takedown brought him straight into the mount where he literally did nothing and Randy rolled out of it with ease. Brandon's whole fight really was the takedown with the 5 secound mount and one good kick that resulted in a KD and Randy recovered quickly from that. Randy controlled a good 13 minutes atleast of the 15 minute fight. Clinch fighting is apart of fighting and regardless of what people say he didnt just pin him agianst the fence. Randy was looking for single legs, trips, kneeing, elbows and overall control, setting his pace and trying to wear his man out. Strategy was his basis for doing that and it was effective enough to keep Randy relevant in this divison for now atleast.