Another survey for you boxing lovers - 10 questions

10=which boxer is the highest risk lowest reward? hmm winky?

 

1. no otherwise target would of won the first fight az well
2.Judah
3.safe pick
4.bums
5.no
6.wolfs
7.Dlh
8.yes
9.yes he is...I can't say there is more between the 2 than what the public knows.
10. burley

 

1. Had his number.... In three fights Roy had problems all over. It happens..
2. Panchito Bojado...
3. Safe pick
4. Top ten fighters
5. Think he could of gotten up but knew he would probably be on the canvas again later
6. Wolfe, seriously
7. DLH
8. No, great knockout over a really good fighter with a solid chin.
9. Yes, Ali was a ***** to Frasier, people forget how arrogant and disrespectful Ali was in his prime.
10. Ray Mercer

 

1. Tarver beat him 2 out of 3 times and gave Roy severe problems the time he lost. He had his number.

3. SRR is a Safe pick

4. The Klitschkos would be champs only rivaled by Lewis. Bowe was too inconsistent and Holyfield was style-wise tayler-made for both Klits.

5. No, Hopkins knocked him out clean.

6. Malignaggi. Come on now.

7. DLH

8. No, he's rated perfectly fine. Martinez is a tremendous MW.

9. No, Frazier should get over it.

 

1. Did Tarver have Roy's number, or did he just get to him at the right time?

Tarver gives Roy a rough fight at any point, because his whole career purpose was to beat Roy Jones, the man was obsessed, and still harps on about it today. I think a prime Roy beats him, after taking more shots than we were used to seeing him take.

2. No. 1 "Could Have been great" fighter of all time?

Meldrick Taylor, he had all the tools (besides 1 shot power) his style was all wrong for him, he didn't need to take half the shots that he took, I'd also throw in a fully dedicated and non family trained Zab Judah. Salvador Sanchez could of been the GOAT.

3. SRR at #1 on the vast majority of ATG lists - "safe pick" or deserves to be there?
Safe pick, alot of guys put him top without having seen him fight properly, and just go with the flow.

4. The Klits in the 90s - champs or bums?

Champions who lose and regain the belt, along with Tyson, Lewis, Holyfield and possibly Bowe.

5. Did Oscar take a dive vs Hopkins?
Yeah, but props to him for getting in there in the first place and not running away,

6. Hits harder: Anne Wolfe or Paulie Malignaggi? (seriously)
Paulie, the 147 version is a beast who came close to knocking out the Iron chinned Jose Cotto!

7. Immediate De La Hoya-Trinidad re-match: who woulda won?
De La Hoya, and by KO.

8. Is Sergio Martinez overrated?
Not in relation to modern middleweights, but he's nowhere close to Hopkins, Hagler, Monzon or indeed Robinson.

9. Frazier still resentful towards Ali - should he be?
Yes, the world adores Ali, and chooses to gloss over how big a dick he was to a man who fought his corner all the way to the president of the USA.

10. High risk, low reward GOAT?
Winky Wright, H2H the man is a prime nightmare for anyone of this era, Floyd included.

 

Mr. tony is back?

 

1. Did Tarver have Roy's number, or did he just get to him at the right time?

A bit of both. He did have the right strategy and talked about it before the 2nd fight, saying to get around speed you have to get inside, and that he did get that counter on the inside and landed the perfect punch. But it wasnt all luck because his strategy set that up. He had old RJJ's number but he would loose to a prime RJJ.


2. No. 1 "Could Have been great" fighter of all time?

IDK, I guess I will go with RJJ, if he would have had more big names in his prime.

3. SRR at #1 on the vast majority of ATG lists - "safe pick" or deserves to be there?

From the clips I watched he was the real deal but honestly I dont watch enough pre 2000 boxing to pick you a number 1. Some people will even rank fighters with no fight tape available.

4. The Klits in the 90s - champs or bums?

They would be near the top. You got more talent in there, but Vitali was a legit bad ass and Wlad is highly skilled. They may have some losses but they would hand out some losses as well.

5. Did Oscar take a dive vs Hopkins?

I think he stayed down on purpose, it seemed like bad acting. Hopkins would have won either way but its such a strange ending.

6. Hits harder: Anne Wolfe or Paulie Malignaggi? (seriously)

Malignaggi, he probably hits a lot harder if he sits down on it, as in head to head punching a bag as hard as they can. But his style in the ring is what has him not hitting his hardest.

7. Immediate De La Hoya-Trinidad re-match: who woulda won?

DLH, trinidad can be outboxed by the best boxers and he isnt stopping dlh. DLH will have to fix his ******ed problem of coasting the late rounds.

8. Is Sergio Martinez overrated?

Yes, hes rated highly off pavlik and williams but that is it. If you look at the records of his competition before cintron, they are horrible. Hes the man to beat now but he is scared to jump to 168 which if you look at the best guys from the last 10 years like DLH, Shane, Morales, RJJ, Pac, PBF ect they have all jumped multiple weight classes and Sergio cant handle a 3rd. Hes not at that level. Those guys were fighting at the top level in their divisions for 10+ years.

9. Frazier still resentful towards Ali - should he be?

I personally dont think he should but he has a right to express his feelings. And really I rather him be honest than bull**** it and put on a PC happy face just because thats what people want to see.

10. High risk, low reward GOAT?

Winky Wright, off the top of my head. He could give anyone in history at 154-160 a hard fight and except for the times between the mosley win and the hopkins loss, there isnt much money to be made compared to other, easier fighters.

 

oh my bad, i read #2 as who could have been p4p #1 atg...

 

Here you go! :good

 

1. I think Tarver got Roy at the right time although it has been said that Tarver studied Roy for a long time. I believe with the weight loss it took away some of Roys quickness. We never seen Roy's chin get tested because he did have good athletic ability he could get away with the fundamentals, (Roy never really used a jab) but his hands were so quick and he had good punching power he could put a person away quickly.

2. The common response is probably going to be Mike Tyson and I agree. If Cus D lived another 5-10 years Mike would've been the greatest heavy of all time. How many other dominant heavy's after Mike Tyson were considered great in the 90's?

3. SRR DESERVES to be there how could you not be considered great or #1 with 200 profights under your belt and an 86-0 Amateur record? He didn't have a big mouth like Ali did SRR just fought and that was the end of it.

4. Klits should be champs although I have a different view of Performance Enhancers in Boxing then I do...say...Baseball. With Baseball you are hitting a ball over the fence, with Boxing you are trying to hurt someone. Boxing should have the best testing in the world...even better than the Olympics.

5. No Oscar didn't take a dive, (Although I like to make fun of him see avatar) Although Oscar has lost a lot of his big fights I believe he is a competitor and he wouldn't cheat on his fans as well as himself like that...but I could be wrong. Has anyone had a kidney stone before? I wouldn't wish that ordeal on anyone, it's similar to getting punched there.

6. They both hit as hard as my 90 year old grandma but I will take Anne Wolfe.

7. Same result-Oscar always seems to lose the big fight.

8. Sergio Martinez hasn't been fighting a long time, (He's been playing Soccerr) so he doesn't have the: "I have been fighting ever since I was born" experience. He has good speed and punching power and the middleweight division is pretty thin, I say that he is even though I am a fan and I watch his fights all the time.

9. No he shouldn't be, get over it already don't take it to the grave with you. Joe helped Ali get back on his feet because Ali couldn't get any fights and Joe felt betrayed when Ali turned against him, (Calling him a ******...etc) People that betray you...forgive them, it does a lot more for yourself then it does for the other person.

10. Yep, getting beat in the head for years could affect you not only physically but mentally as well. You have to have a certain mindset to beat someone in the head and be good at doing it to be considered an all time great. Even if you do all the right things, (Train well, be around the right people...etc) Your health could fail you and you could end up in the hospital for a long time. Also the long term effects of fighting could harm you as well. That is why a lot of younger kids aren't picking Boxing as a sport of choice there are a lot of other sports you can do with less long term damage. Baseball, Basketball, Golf, Hockey, Football..etc

 

1. Did Tarver have Roy's number, or did he just get to him at the right time? Got him at the right time, Roy was at the start of his slide and Tarver, a good fighter, was there, but he'd never have beaten the prime RJJ

2. No. 1 "Could Have been great" fighter of all time? I feel with the talent he had Tyson could have done alot mnore than he did. He still made the hall of fame and is considered great by alot but there's no doubting he fell short.

3. SRR at #1 on the vast majority of ATG lists - "safe pick" or deserves to be there? Probably benefitted from being a fighter in the 40's and 50's where there's more footage available from, other contenders have less to give people an impression of them, but I'd say he's a good pick.

4. The Klits in the 90s - champs or bums? Not enjoying the domination they do now but if Bruce Seldon, Frank Bruno, Micheal Moorer, and old Geroge Foreman could win major belts then they could too. I see no reason they couldn't beat any of those guys, perhaps Holyfield post 97 too when he held titles.

5. Did Oscar take a dive vs Hopkins? No, getting hit in the stomach hurts

6. Hits harder: Anne Wolfe or Paulie Malignaggi? (seriously) Probably Anne Wolfe

7. Immediate De La Hoya-Trinidad re-match: who woulda won? De la Hoya won the first one, he'd have won again knowing not to take a rest

8. Is Sergio Martinez overrated? I don't see people rating him all that highly, people aren't comparing him to Ray Robinson are they? He's one of the best going today

9. Frazier still resentful towards Ali - should he be? I'm the bare a grudge type so I can understand it

10. High risk, low reward GOAT? There was a black light welterweight in the 60's I read a history of and sounds like he fits the bill, had to go all over the world for title fights because he was high risk, low reward and champion of an unfashionable division, I can't remember his bloody name :twisted: I'll add it if it comes to me.

 

Got a surprisingly good response from the last survey, so here's another one for all those who love to discuss even the most obscure and irrelevant topics...

1. Did Tarver have Roy's number, or did he just get to him at the right time?

Got him at the right time. A prime Roy would have handled him with ease.

2. No. 1 "Could Have been great" fighter of all time?

Riddick Bowe

3. SRR at #1 on the vast majority of ATG lists - "safe pick" or deserves to be there?

Deserves to be there, although it is more debatable than some like to admit

4. The Klits in the 90s - champs or bums?

Champs

5. Did Oscar take a dive vs Hopkins?

NO

6. Hits harder: Anne Wolfe or Paulie Malignaggi? (seriously)

Wolfe

7. Immediate De La Hoya-Trinidad re-match: who woulda won?

De La Hoya

8. Is Sergio Martinez overrated?

YES

9. Frazier still resentful towards Ali - should he be?

NO

10. High risk, low reward GOAT

Jimmy Young

 

Good Questions