Another way to look at the "B-Hop only fought smaller men" theory...

In a sense yes. Hopkins is a dedicated boxer. And very few fighters could keep up the discipline for so long to starve themselves.

Hopkins has shown many times that he is a very dedicated and disciplined fighter. Which is also why he can be old as sin and still fight.

 

Hopkins resume remains ATG even if his fans admitts the losses to Calzaghe and Taylor. Every time they try to fix these shrinks in his armor, they only lose credibility. Only trolls suggests that the losses against Taylor and the Calzaghe exposed Hopkins. No reason to bother about them.

 

Since Hopkins eventually faced Joe, it seems irrelevant that he ducked him earlier, for what ever reasons it might have been :deal

 

Do you have mind reading powers, HEADBANGER? :huh

 

Come on man, You know that was just a phase of the negotiations.Hops was just trying to jack up the pot and aint nothing wrong with that, and aint nothing with picking up a quick three quarters of a mill while waiting for the big payday.:bbb:bbb:bbb

 

I'm not a fan. What i'm saying is if I had the time and motivation I could watch these fights to score them round by round, if after this I feel hopkins won or drew the fights then i'd class them as wins or draws for hopkins.

Secure logic and reasoning.

 

What were joe's top 5 victories by 2002? Had he unified the division by this point?

Hopkins came back when joe had entered the top 10 p4p and ice unified the division.

I'm not a fan of his, I rooted for joe that night. rooted for oscar against him, rooted for jones against him, rooted for pascal also.

Yeah I have him behind pac, martinez, donaire and jmm. Thank you for taking note of my list making

 

i love this post. link please. this is just like when calzaghe fans claim he beat chris byrd as an amateur. it never happened. in 2002, joe was nothing more than a belt holder at 168. he was still four years away from beating lacy but hopkins supposedly ducked him then. hopkins was so scared of calzaghe, he fought him when he was 43 yrs old. no effing way bhop was offered more to fight joe in 2002 than he made vs tito.

 

Morrande hakkar is a ATG who would want him over sir Joe!:?

 

Fair enough.

 

what were hakar's, joppy's, robert allan's best 5 wins in 2002?

doesn't really matter does it, hopkins got offered a career high payday in 2002 to fight calzaghe on home soil and ducked him. if the fact was that calzaghe had made a derisory £750k offer to fight hopkins in 2002, then i could understand your viewpoint more as that would have been a high risk / low reward fight for him finacially.

 

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Exactly my point, that's the bracket joe was in back then. Just a title holder who wasn't proven.

When the fight did happen it was a meeting of two top 5 p4p fighters who had unified their respective divisions (altho according to bailey it could be that hopkins dominated a division he wasn't even naturally in!).