Anthony Bellew v David Deron Haye - 17th December

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  1. oiky

    oiky Gypsy Boy Full Member

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    I don't think it will
     
  2. Grooveongreg

    Grooveongreg Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Yea ppv is getting ridiculous. But least we don't pay 100 bucks like America. That is savage

    If I was American I would never watch or pay for ppv I would always stream out of protest ..disgrace
     
  3. lewis gassed

    lewis gassed The Bronze Dosser Full Member

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  4. Unforgiven

    Unforgiven VIP Member banned Full Member

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    I doubt Haye's had a proper training camp since 2013/'14 when he pulled out from the Fury fights with "career ending injuries".
     
  5. Blah

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    This will be his first fight with Salas, after leaving Shane McGuigan. His issues aside, wonder if that will make any difference?
     
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  6. ryanm8655

    ryanm8655 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    10th December being reported today, still a Sunday...

    See what happens re: new trainer, unlikely to be able to teach him anything at this stage but hopefully gets him focussed on fundamentals and respecting his opponent rather than swinging wildly and walking him down...as soon as he stopped and started to use his jab he looked in control...
     
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  7. CutThroatFade

    CutThroatFade Rangers FC Full Member

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    That's all he has to do in the rematch. Work off the jab, especially to the body. He was timing it brilliantly just before the injury.

    It was clear he was throwing the wild hayemakers to begin with because he had a dodgy Achilles and wanted to get the job done quick. Didn't work.

    But anyway there is no need to go swinging. Work off the jab, let Bellew tire (because he did indeed tire badly last time even though Haye was on one leg), and the KO opportunity will open up in the later rounds.

    The thing about Haye is he loves fighting and he clearly loves getting drawn into shootouts (Chisora, Enzo for example). Hopefully next time he can be a little more sensible.
     
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  8. lawslaw

    lawslaw Active Member Full Member

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    I don't think a Fury fan is now in ANY position to even bring up the subject of Hayes 'pullouts'.
     
  9. Unforgiven

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    Why not ? They should all be criticized. You mistake me too much for a "Fury fan" simply because I give Tyson Fury his credit for what he did against Wlad in Dusseldorf, and acknowledge the achievement.
    As a chronically deluded "Haye fan" you don't understand that, since most of what you deal in is fantasy (eg. Haye being an elite HW who's going to clean up the division) rather than concrete achievements and realistic expectations.

    My comment wasn't intended to highlight the "pull outs" anyway. I'm talking about his fragile body rather than the pull-outs. I actually think Haye was telling the truth when he said "career ending injuries", although technically his career still continues, he knows he's never going to be a top heavyweight. The question now is whether he truly believes he can get past Tony Bellew !
     
  10. FelixAnineh

    FelixAnineh New Member Full Member

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    David Haye needs to understand that the number one tool in boxing is the fist not his mouth, while you were ranting in major interviews, press conferences and interviews Tony Bellew was working so hard to put up a good fight. It would be a great fight to watch.
     
  11. Brixton Bomber

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    Haye needs a new approach to training.

    He should go across to America and train with people who train the UFC fighter GSP when it comes to S&C.

    They use amazing pieces of equipment which would be tailor-made for David's style, but without the soreness & DOMS that comes with training. He needs super low impact training like that or Triathlon-based training.

    Weights, explosive movements like Jumps etc are all out of the question for someone like Haye.

    Haye is weird. In fighting terms he has next to no miles on his body like say Hatton did. He is remarkably fresh, IMHO. But his body won't let him do the prep, but his mind wants to. It's as of his tendons, ligaments etc are made of elastic or are on their deathbed. He's in a weird spot.
     
  12. jm2729v

    jm2729v Active Member Full Member

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    I can imagine how big headed Hayes become with his fancy new promotion I doubt he'll be able to train seriously for this fight he'll be too distracted
     
  13. Twentyman

    Twentyman You dog nonce! banned Full Member

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    Do you reckon he’ll be willing to evolve his style though with what his body can cope with mate, or do you suspect he might go back out there and look for that quick devastating knockout?
     
  14. CutThroatFade

    CutThroatFade Rangers FC Full Member

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    I think regardless of the way Bellew won the first fight he has earned Haye's respect in the ring. There were one or two times Haye caught Bellew flush on the gabber to no effect. Surely Haye realises he can't Enzo Tony Bellew, but you never know with Haye, he's very arrogant and as I said earlier he absolutely loves a brawl. Remember this is the guy who took on Chisora and Don Charles alone when Chisora had his entire entourage with him lol.
     
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  15. Twentyman

    Twentyman You dog nonce! banned Full Member

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    I agree mate. It’s in his fighting DNA, he does love a good ruck. I suspect that will it essentially being an eliminator for the world title, he will try to shut Bellew out on the edge of his jab. It’s his last big opportunity to become a world champion again. He has to use his head and not his ego.