Anthony Crolla vs. Ricky Burns & Sam Eggington vs. Mohamed Mimoune RBR.

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  1. CST80

    CST80 De Omnibus Dubitandum Staff Member

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    I missed the first 4, and a little of the 5th, and the last 2 earlier, so I rescored it. It was anything but a rout almost every round was razor close, and Mimoune with his little fruity eh eh eh pitty pats were embarrassing, and Egg was blocking a lot of those. I can't stand this guy, he can't get brutally KO'd quick enough for me, he really lucked out that Sam was drained and lethargic as hell and gassed after the 8th, because he would have probably stopped him otherwise. As far as the win goes, most people who were blown away by Mimoune's performance had just underestimated him so much that they overrated and overreacted the performance while it was occurring.

    So what Sam lost to annoying gnat who's good at spinning out and not getting hit clean, no one watches Sam because they think he's a good boxer regardless, he's like Gatti or Rosado, they like watching him scrap, so Mimoune can take his little trinket and **** off back to Toulouse and lose it to some guy like Sandor Martin or Anthony Yigit, while Sam goes on to headline another card and score another highlight reel KO in his next match.:ggg

    Round 1 Eggington 10-9 Close
    Round 2 Mimoune 10-9
    Round 3 Mimoune 10-9
    Round 4 Eggington 10-9 Close
    Round 5 Eggington 10-9 Very Close
    Round 6 Mimoune 10-9 Very Close
    Round 7 Eggington 10-9
    Round 8 Eggington 10-9 Close
    Round 9 Mimoune 10-9
    Round 10 Mimoune 10-9 Close
    Round 11 Mimoune 10-9 Very Close
    Round 12 Eggington 10-9 Very Close

    114-114 Even

    115-113 Mimoune is fine as well.
     
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  2. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt Guy wants to name his çock 'macho' that's ok by me

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    Gatti or Rosado?? Dude he's a feather duster. He enjoyed a nice little Cinderella run for a while there but eventually the coach turns back into a pumpkin and the ride is over. Eggington isn't and never was going to be some world class knockout artist or somebody that "shouldn't lose" to any decent operator circa "reasonably could he in contention for a Euro title". He isn't on that pedestal just because he strung together a few laudable domestic and international victories and happened to do so in style on a good (but not like "omg we've never seen anything like this!" run of form. He didn't ever fully step up to a high enough level to say "yeah, he's the real deal and he knocks Amir Khan the FO, no question". He is what he is, and has always been, very good, a bit above British level but certainly plateaued off short of elite until proven (with a repetition of results against steadily increasing quality of comp - either over a longer period or versus better comp than he did) otherwise.
     
  3. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt Guy wants to name his çock 'macho' that's ok by me

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    And come on, be objective, don't hate on Mimoune just because he made good on his awkward helterskelter style and (figuratively speaking) punchsd above his weight to upset the apple cart and derail a guy you'd been rooting for. Mimoune has to do more with less (even more feather-fisted than Eggington was considered in his early career, literally couldn't bust an egg) and put on a spirited performance on the road. Absolutely no call to **** on the guy, he deserves props. They can't all be pretty to watch and the Mimounes and Bradley Skeetes of the world have their place...and that place is whooping Sam Eggington's azz. :sisi1
     
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  4. Badbot

    Badbot You can just do things. Full Member

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    Still has a great story.
    Declared bankruptcy in 2015 and he was in serious dept. 400 000 pounds or something like that.
    Prior to that, his biggest purse was 500 000 vs Crawford.
    Made a heck of a comeback after that.
     
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  5. CST80

    CST80 De Omnibus Dubitandum Staff Member

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    Gatti and Rosado weren't and aren't monster KO artists, they're just entertaining fighters that put on a show that people are willing to go see regardless of how many losses they rack up, albeit more skilled than Sam, fans enjoyed watching them fight, just like Sam, he's fun to watch and is still capable of racking up several decent to quasi big wins, if he has someone who isn't a slippery gruesome to watch defensive bore standing in front of him, he can KO them or at least inflict a long drawn out beating on them. I never made the claim Sam was a next level beast incapable of being outboxed, in fact I was damn close to picking Mimoune for the upset, I picked Skeete over him as well, that being said, but I figured Sam's pressure would eventually get to him. I despise watching them, most people probably despise watching them as much as I do, they will never have a fan base or get a lot of love, because they're unpleasant ugly bores in the ring. Guys like Mimoune and Skeete have a place in the sport, on undercards or off TV, I don't make an exception for gruesome fighters like Vazquez or even or even a top P4P talent like Rigo,:lol: why would I praise them? They can both eat a dick.:deal:
     
  6. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt Guy wants to name his çock 'macho' that's ok by me

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    Yeah but Mimoune has to fight that way to be remotely effective, lacking any other major advantages or intangibles to put himself over, so doesn't part of you feel like you have to respect him for the hustle of "uglying" his way to an upset road W, local crowd (or spectators period) be damned? Like, don't hate the player, hate the game? I just don't get the vitriol aimed in Mimoune's direction. He knows he's nobody's favorite boxer. He's just making his living, dude.

    Not his fault you happened to let yourself get invested emotionally in Eggington. (whose Cinderella run always had that looming expiration date, honestly I thought for sure he would get found out against C-Rod)
     
  7. UnleashtheFURY

    UnleashtheFURY D'oh! Full Member

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    I'm sorry Mr. Intentionalbutt, but you can't be so grey with language and expect 100% credit for calling that upset.
     
  8. Birmingham

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    I heard fish eyes done him out of money, is that why he went bankrupt ??
     
  9. CST80

    CST80 De Omnibus Dubitandum Staff Member

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    Sure, it impresses me a little, and I do respect it, but it doesn't mean I have to be a fan or root for him, Mayweather and Ward are arguably the two most skilled fighters on the planet, and that never kept me from wishing them savage KO losses either, I'm only being consistent. I was never all that emotionally invested in Sam, although I do like working class gritty blood and guts guys, although Sam isn't quite on that level either, he has potential to get there, I was under no illusion that he'd go far, and even said as much in the thread I did on him, and like you I thought Ceferino had a shot as well, and for the record, I didn't think Mimoune flat out deserved the win, it was a drawish type fight, so it wasn't some amazing masterclass he put on, he barely outboxed Sam Eggington, whoopty doo.
     
  10. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt Guy wants to name his çock 'macho' that's ok by me

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    I mean yeah, I didn't outright tip Mimoune in that post or anything, just meant to remind everyone that Eggington did have a fight coming up. That's a common theme with me if you look back through my posts. Unless there's a gigantic class mismatch, it always seriously annoys me when fans look past a plausibly competitive match-up because of the assumption that a favored combatant is going to without a doubt be in a position to engage in their hypothetical later/"bigger" match-ups (that are contingent upon them actually putting in the work and getting the W) - it also bugs me when promoters make those "just get by fighter X, and this fight with Z is as good as signed" type of handshake deals. Like screw them. Nothing's a given. Especially in a case like Eggington vs. Mimoune, these guys were not on that dissimilar a level. Eggington just benefited from a nice sequence of lucky matchmaking (Gavin mending his wounds from Brook, shot ass Malignaggi, C-Rod after his tough win over Mousaoui where he got dropped) and, to his credit, executed well, but he never stopped being a "probably tops out at Euro level" guy and Mimoune is also pretty much in that stratosphere. This was never some gigantic mismatch where it wasn't disrespectful to look past the guy that didn't happen to build up a name in a country with more of a focus on nationally televised boxing and privileged with the backing of a friking Eddie Hearn.
     
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  11. UnleashtheFURY

    UnleashtheFURY D'oh! Full Member

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    Yeah. I thought it might be competitive but figured there was no way Mimoune would get the nod in the event that went the distance and was even remotely close... Still haven't seen the fight - going to sit down and give it and Crolla/Burns a good watch next week.
     
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  12. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt Guy wants to name his çock 'macho' that's ok by me

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    I mean, CST isn't wrong, it's butt-ugly. :lol:

    ...but I curiously found myself nodding along in approval watching Mimoune shart all over the ring with his ultra-light drift-in lead southpaw hooks and weird melting away/turning his shoulder almost completely around like a protective cape thing, and somehow managing to befuddle Sam with all that.
     
  13. CST80

    CST80 De Omnibus Dubitandum Staff Member

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    I've seen way too many come forward aggressors get robbed on the cards this year against dull counter punchers with no pop to get all misty eyed when one gets a debatable gift. I stand by my assessment, I wish him nothing but a series of savage KO losses for years to come.:D
     
  14. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt Guy wants to name his çock 'macho' that's ok by me

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    Aww, you bitter ol' fuddy-duddy. :p So then, speaking of guys with hideous styles (and W's over Eggy), you must be chuffed that poor Skeete's rumored big-payday world title shot at Horn went up in smoke, passed over for an inferior Brit?
     
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  15. CST80

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    Very chuffed indeed.:D I was dreading that match, although I think Horn would probably win, it would be ugly and questionable 6-6 type match that would do him more harm than good.
     
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