Anthony Dirrell vs Steve Collins

They weren't, but he beats prime Benn an Eubank for me anyway

 

Look, you and I both know that Nigel Benn was an absolute warrior.

A warrior who told Don King to bring Gerald over.

So if you think that a proud warrior like Nigel had to fake an injury against a man, that tells you that his tank was EMPTY.

There’s no way a prime version of Nigel Benn is faking an injury against anyone.

You can’t have it both ways.

If he’d got balance issues, a shadow on his brain, and he had to quit, that is not an otherworldly win by Steve Collins.

Get real man.

Your tie yourself up with your own comments.

Yes, Collins was a warrior himself. But at the end of the day, he beat a shot version of Nigel Benn.

 

He's all wrong for a Benn at his best. If you can't take Nigel's punch, he beats you, simple as that, because he will hit you.

Collins didn't blink. And wasn't intimidated, either. As the vast majority were.

 

You said it.

Dear me.

You don’t even know what you’ve said.

 

They would have been great fights.

I think he would have beaten Benn, but a pre-Watson Eubank I can’t split.

 

It's honestly like talking to a guy with Down Syndrome. It's like you can't seem to grasp anything, bless.

Benn was a bully. He wasn't scared of anyone per say because he knew he was a master of intimidation or hiding his own fear. He knew how hard he punched. As did Tyson. He quit against Michael Watson when he knew he couldn't win, clear as day. He is absolutely fine on his knee, waits for the ref to count him out and wave it off before standing right up perfectly fine and going over to Watson, smiling straight away. He couldn't get through Watson's guard, had tired himself out, hated being punched (who does? That's not the point), and QUIT.

He says himself today that the reason he didn't do sparring was because he hated being hit.

What happened when Holy took Tyson's best bombs early and just stared back at him? Mike looked for a way out, he kept biting him, he quit. He knew he couldn't win and was going to be hit lots. Same thing with Benn against Watson, Collins I and Collins II.

McClellan was clearly hurt by Benn in the 2nd round, and in a lot of distress early, so Benn knew he could win that one and went for him. He was however in a trance-like state through being hypnotised by Paul McKenna.

He was weak, admitted he was shitting himself before the Barkley fight but had to pretend he wasn't scared, and that right hand at the start was actually fear/adrenalin, all the fouling was also sheer fear in not wanting to stand with him.

 

I don't recall saying that, must be a mistype.

I said it was otherworldly and incredible that he didn't even blink from Benn's biggest bombs and treated him like a child.

 

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That fight was to determine who was the real warrior.

In 1990, Collins fought unheralded master Mike McCallum for the title. Benn fought Doug DeWitt, an easier fight, and became a superstar. Leading to a Vegas defence against a big name and £1M payday v Eubank.

In Oct 92, Benn received no end of coverage in Italy fighting Galvano in front of 10m on ITV and 5m on Italian TV, for the famous WBC belt and leading to another £1M payday v Eubank. In Oct 92 also in Italy, Collins fights a far superior opponent to Benn's in Kalambay with NO TV ANYWHERE for £7,500 in an EBU challenge.

No wonder Steve was bitter towards Benn. Even when he was (then meaningful) USBA champ and rated ABOVE Benn, beating far better fighters than Benn, it was Benn who was hyped in The Ring and on NBC as some invincible destroyer.

All that drove Collins to give Benn a hiding.

 

How badly managed can you get??

 

How have you got the audacity to type out your first line?

Seriously.

It defies belief.

Nigel Benn was exhausted against Watson.

He didn’t quit against Eubank.

He didn’t quit against Gerald.

Again, if you think he quit against Collins in under 4 rounds, then that speaks volumes.

 

You infuriate us posters my friend and cause us to post things we usually wouldn't. You're the fault.

He quit against Watson, clearly. He's waiting for the referee to count him out, then springs right up and bounces! Not great acting pretending to be disappointed at the ref.

He despised Eubank, so desperately didn't want to lose to him, in a fight he was bossing.

He was in a trance-like state against McClellan, under hypnosis. And angry that King brought him over to bash him up and get the belt back in America! With it being Benn's last contracted fight with King! (of course, King re-signed him to another three-fight deal after the fight... After walking in with and cheering for, McClellan!)

 

Froch - Me

Groves - Loudon

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Fact!

 

Roy got called out badly there and never replied. Ouch.

 

Notice when Eubank is mentioned at 14m05s, Roy looks away

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Here you again with another comedy opening line.

You’re priceless.

He was spent against Watson.

Oh, so if he hadn’t have despised Eubank like he did, he may have quit?

Is that what you’re saying?

Under normal circumstances, Nigel Benn would not quit against anybody in FOUR ROUNDS.

Get real.

Nobody is buying that.

If he really quit and pretended to injure his ankle, then that means he had nothing left.

If it was legit, the win can’t be celebrated.