Anthony Dirrell: "Word is, Andre Ward is vacating WBC. Froch, you're next!"

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  1. drozzy

    drozzy AERE Full Member

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    I don't think that's even possible. Can't be a 'unification' fight if the other guy doesn't yet have the title.
     
  2. Maden

    Maden Well-Known Member Full Member

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    This is a joke right? :huh
     
  3. s.i.mustata

    s.i.mustata Active Member Full Member

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    After the Taylor fight Froch called out Calzaghe, so i don't think Carl is familiar with the term "easy route". Ward dropping the WBC is a rumour made by a future opponent whom either preffer avoiding at this point Ward and in the same time implying he's being ducked by him. Goossen tries to raise Ward's profile, dropping the WBC is not a good move, Ward=\=Mayweather Jr.
    Plus, try to realise the true question Froch has to answer himself in front of his real opportunities (sau "Sa dai vrabia din mana pe cioara de pe gard")
     
  4. s.i.mustata

    s.i.mustata Active Member Full Member

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    But american TV needs american heroes badly (daca voi nu ma vreti eu va vreu)

    Sauerland decides if Kessler is WBC Emeritus, like they decided Kessler to be WBO mando after fighting a guy that just dropped down to MW


    Froch doesn't know for sure Ward is dropping his belt or that Tony Dirrell travel to England, all these are suppositions (some made on twitter), Hearns is trying to capitalize on the sense of emergency Interbox and Lucian Bute's fans have (and you, me and the others fans are the prove of this)
     
  5. chitownfightfan

    chitownfightfan Loyal Member Full Member

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    I've always though that Tony was the better of the Dirrels. He missed two yrs of padding his record and preparing himself for Blevel fighters like St Juste, but now he's healthy and moving along nicely. I'm also fairly sure that he's on Shwotimes approved list.

    That said, it's a much better fight than Stevenson, and if it's true that the WBC will be sanctioning a vacant title fight, WHY SHOULDN'T Bute be in the running for it?

    And the mere offer may be enough to bring Hearn and Froch to their senses and sign the Bute fight ALREADY!:rofl
     
  6. Maden

    Maden Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Not much from Eddie... Bute is still a possible matchup for Froch in late May.
     
  7. drozzy

    drozzy AERE Full Member

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    Damn. I wonder if they're waiting for the Chisora/Haye storm to weather down.
     
  8. RazorHandz

    RazorHandz Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Froch can get a title in both fights so it's not an argument in Dirrell's favor. What's better : WBC title at stake + low money or IBF title at stake + big money and potential rematch for even more money?

    1 - Wasn't a problem for Showtime during the S6
    2 - Ward is good friends with the Dirrells, he ain't fighting them unless it's for huge money
    3 - At this point you can't say that Anthony is more dangerous than Bute
     
  9. s.i.mustata

    s.i.mustata Active Member Full Member

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    1 - S6 was building a super-american-champion at that time they had a higher purpose (unified champion) than now (vacant belt); and by your logic, Showtime shouldn't have no problem in televising Bute-Froch

    2 - that's bizzare, Ward and Andre Dirrell had a contract and should've fighted for peanuts in the S6; do you imply they both took a dump on Showtime?

    3 - Ofcourse Anthony is not more dangerous than Bute; but also Ward and Kessler weren't more dangerous than Calzaghe and Froch called out Calzaghe exactly before the Super6 begun
     
  10. BeastsideBoxing

    BeastsideBoxing "The Thrill" Gavril Full Member

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    After the Taylor fight Froch was on a adrenalin high, He just luckily escaped career death. A fight with Calzaghe would've settled him financially win draw or lose. He lost to Kessler after and that didn't end his hype or his career so lose to Joe would be even less harmful.
    Two losses later, he can't be as confident as he was then he also is few years older. After having the toughest route in the SuperSix and receiving two defeats might chance the way you think, act and react to things. Experiences teaches us, like a baby who burned himself touching a hot coal took out of the fire he might do it twice in his ignorance but he'll eventually learn that it is not smart to keep doing it.
     
  11. s.i.mustata

    s.i.mustata Active Member Full Member

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    Froch said he's not rating Lucian ( believes Ward beats all active SMW); Hearn believes is winable. After the Taylor fight Froch is surprised when Jim Gray tells him according to 2 judges he would've lost if he hadn't KO'ed Taylor; i actually had the fight going into the 12th round, 105-103 Taylor and if the KO would't have happened it would've been a draw in my book. It was a close fight, only the Ward fight wasn't close but froch was game (anyway, better than Kessler). Froch wants the big fights, he doesn't have time to waste, Ward dropping the belt isn't certain yet, Anthony Dirrell travelling to England also isn't a certain thing (while Bute wanting to come to England with his belt is a certain thing). I believe things are stalling at this point because Interbox is negotiating with Showtime either an off fight or a new deal .
     
  12. RazorHandz

    RazorHandz Boxing Addict Full Member

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    1 - My point is fighters have no problem scheduling fights at an appropriate hour for american viewers and the american networks have no problem televising fights from overseas if they feel the fighters are popular enough.

    2 - They were in a different position back then, two fighters with little name recognition who were given the opportunity to fight worldclass fighters back to back in main events on Showtime, of course they signed the contract. Now it's a different situation, Ward is more established and he can make money without having to fight his friends.

    3 - How did you come to that conclusion? Who did Anthony fight to prove he was more dangerous than Bute?
     
  13. s.i.mustata

    s.i.mustata Active Member Full Member

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    1- The only fighter popular enough in the states, between Tony Dirrell and Carl Froch is .... Carl Froch : and so we came in full circle - why Showtime does not want to buy Bute-Froch

    2 - there is a reason they are calling it professional boxing; no offense, but you abuse on this threat the use of the word friends; by your logic Ward was already in the semis 1st place and should've forfeit the fight with Andre Dirrell and give him the 2 points necessary to advance in the S6 semifinals... you know, because they are friends

    3 - i actually put a "not" somewhere in my explanation but my sentence wasn't clear enough and unwillingly deceiving; i apologize, english isn't my first language (even my second, at least en théorie )
     
  14. RazorHandz

    RazorHandz Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Froch-Dirrell doesn't even need to be broadcasted on american tv anyway, so I don't know why you brought that up as a roadblock to the fight.

    No, like I said, back then they needed the money and exposure badly because they were relatively unknown so they had no problem fighting each other (until Dirrell decided to pull out). Now if they can make money without fighting each other then they will choose that option, unless the money is REALLY good.
     
  15. s.i.mustata

    s.i.mustata Active Member Full Member

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    look, i just want the best fight to be made and Froch-Anthony Dirrell isn't the best one. just one more thing : no fan base=no real money, no television = no possibility of establishing a fan base