Anthony Joshua has predicted that Deontay Wilder will KO Tyson Fury in their trilogy fight

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  1. Bumnard_Hopkins

    Bumnard_Hopkins Burger King banned Full Member

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    Those were two underwhelming punches. Wilder did not get good extension on them. He needs space to hit hard, he isn't heavy handed.
    The second shot, the hook, was meh.
     
  2. jmb1356

    jmb1356 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    No way he believes that. If Wilder were ever going to beat Fury, it would have been the first time.
     
  3. cuchulain

    cuchulain Loyal Member Full Member

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  4. Leeroy84

    Leeroy84 Lancashire-la-la-la Full Member

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    Cheers AJ, I feel alot more confident in my pick now.
    Fury smashes Wilder in under 5 rounds and fights Whyte next, while AJ sorts he Usyk rematch problems out.
     
  5. Bumnard_Hopkins

    Bumnard_Hopkins Burger King banned Full Member

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    The hook didn't even land flush. Wilder's hooks are always sloppy and compare much less power compared to his straight punches.
     
  6. navigator

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    You should. A glance at some old threads casts doubt on your ability to fairly or astutely assess post-exile Fury's prospects.

    You tabbed him to be defeated by Klitschko back in 2015, but that wouldn't give me cause to single you out for criticism given the consensus of opinion at the time (the majority weren't crediting him with even a hope in hell of winning that one), and you at least retained some goodwill for him heading into that Düsseldorf date with destiny;

    Ever since Tyson emerged from his wilderness years, though, you've been a font of chronic negativity when it comes to his chances of success.

    This cycle began with you forecasting his brutal execution at the hands of Wilder, while casting shade on those who believed he was capable of competing at the top level so soon after his return to low-level action back in 2018 (turned out they were better judges of the situation than you), and has continued through a three-year litany of concerted, churlish naysaying, graphic prophecies of violent demise, analytical myopia, lazy belittling of significant achievement and rhetorically wayward dismissals of technical prowess.

    From "I will be supporting Fury" to this;
    Somewhat of a U-turn.


    The catalogue of thinly veiled deprecation to which I referred above (and of which you can find examples below) seems to have been driven by a certain amount of ill will you were harbouring on account of the circumstances surrounding his hiatus;
    Not to mention a perceptible degree of resentment toward the very notion that Fury could amass such a catalogue of transgressions and emerge on the other side still clutching his ability to compete in heavyweight boxing's top tier.


    After Fury defied your expectations and took Wilder to school in December of 2018, you took some measures to conceal the depth of your feeling, but the litany doesn't leave much need for interpretive leaps;

    (When you weren't waxing lyrical about Wilder's unorthodoxy, strange angles and unpredictability, or painting vivid images of hin rendering Fury unconscious, you were bizarrely insinuating — with no small amount of cognitive dissonance — that Tyson was cherrypicking the guy while swerving the formidable challenge of Tony Bellew over at Matchroom. :lol:)


    Mercer-Morrison? Chrissakes, man, you made it much too obvious. :lol:


    Oddly enough, you identified your own shortcoming. The recurring forecast of Fury in an unconscious heap — I guess you're counting on 'third time lucky' — isn't a prediction so much as a projection of "what you want to happen".




    FWIW, I do have some room to talk when it comes to Fury, as established in the back pages of these forums.
     
  7. FastSmith7

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    Fury doesn't look like he's fully committed, I predict Fury to win but wouldn't be surprised by a Wilder KO.
     
  8. navigator

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    Wilder wasn't just woofing when he said Malik hasn't taught him anything new (like how to throw that left hook of his correctly).

    The content of that video could only solidify my existing conviction, if it wasn't already as firm as could be. Another good hiding is coming Wilder's way.

    There is (unironically) pathos to be found in that footage — a father of eight in his mid-thirties, isolated and alone even as he sits in the middle of a circle of flunkies, gofers, toadies and yes-men, enveloped in a cloak of terminal denial, mumbling to himself about the "cheater", as he recovers from the exertions of mechanically working his way through a series of intermediary drills masquerading as a faceted, advanced demonstration of la dolce scienza.

    It didn't have to go down this way. If not for eighteen months or so of the most bizarre utterances and haywire rationalizations, Wilder could have earned enduring credit for hanging tough in the rematch until his corner waved the white flag, which would have seen him riding into this third bout on a wave of goodwill from the sport's fanbase. Even if most observers would still have viewed the bout as a superfluous formality, an honest desire to run such a shellshocking encounter back would have been respected and admired. The decision to immediately rematch his arch bogeyman in a dogged pursuit of redemption would have won a kudos from all but the most unreasonable of fans/critics. Instead, he's a leper, laughed out of town by fighters, trainers, promoters, media, fans and sanctioning bodies, and reduced to granting 'exclusive' access to his muddled, paranoid thoughts to a small flock of kooky zealots operating in the most undesirable margins of the boxing internet in exchange for morsels of positive reinforcement.

    The desire to defeat Fury is there, of course, but there's nothing honest about it. It's hollow, and his performance in the third bout will reflect and follow in that trait.

    For as long as he can keep operating within range of his physical prime, Wilder's X factor makes him a genuine threat to any current heavyweight who isn't named Tyson Fury. This matchup is simply too much of everything for him. Fury's control of Wilder, his mental and physical domination of him, will only become more pronounced with each successive encounter between the two. Fury is akin to a convoluted, serialized giallo plot to Wilder, while Wilder is a nifty tune Fury learned how to hum from hearing it a couple times on the radio. Fury learns, is teachable, Wilder doesn't and isn't. The Alabama man had one real shot, back in the first bout, when Fury hadn't reaped the analytical benefits of having shared a ring with him and was coming off years of inactivity besides — the bomb landed, but Tyson's remarkable powers of recovery and innate fighting instincts had Wilder testifying that God was on his rival's side. I'll say it again, too much of everything, the deep and gritty and spiritual intangibles included.
     
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  9. Safin

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    I agree. The punches almost looked choreographed. I have no idea why people think they are devastating.

    At the time, it was incredibly dramatic, watching live. But in retrospect you can see that the whole thing looks a bit dodgy.
     
  10. Kiwi Casual

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    I honestly worry about what's going to happen to Dubblechin when Wilder loses. Maybe he'll go for "fourth time lucky"?
     
  11. Vegan Beast

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    Wilder and Fury would both be risky fights for Joshua, but same for the Wilder and Fury.
     
  12. First Round KO

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    Joshua lost a few brain cells after Fat Andy went to town on him. In reality Fury will smash Wilder and then literally end Joshua's career.
     
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  13. channy

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    Rather he hopes Wilder KOs him so he doesn't have to face him.
     
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  14. Oneirokritis

    Oneirokritis The Scourge of Stupid Idiots. Full Member

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    Well, Joshua has already walked that lonesome road once.
     
  15. JDub

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    Deontay this is desperate.