Anthony joshua is one of the biggest frauds in boxing

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  1. Mark Anthony

    Mark Anthony Mollywhopper Full Member

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    Dubois has a better jab and movement than Francis.
     
  2. deadACE

    deadACE Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Parker's modus operandi is to go on a run of sub par opponents when he loses. Its a bit rich to have a pop at Joshua for simply following Parkers model.
     
  3. Philosopher

    Philosopher Active Member Full Member

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    I've been an advocate for Fury for a long time now. For me, he is an enigma, I do believe he fights to the level of his opponent; I thought he looked truly brilliant in some rounds against Usyk and gave him his hardest fight yet, other than the scare he had with Breidis at Cruiser, and I still wouldn't be surprised if he finds a way past Usyk in the rematch...if he hadn't got lazy/tired and got his nose burst just before the fateful ninth, he might even have run away with the first fight. But. AJ is no fraud. He looked really good in his second scrap with the Ukrainian Rubik cube; ya gotta really know what your doing to solve the puzzle, and although his career was carefully managed at the beginning, and what 'cash cow' type fighter's hasn't been, his resume stands up well.

    I have thought for a while that Dubois could be a problem for AJ, but still make him a big favourite for the fight. If the 'thinkable but rarely mentioned' happens and DDD chins him, he's still not a fraud. Come on guys, open your minds. Supporting one fighter to the detriment of all others is fistic fundamentalism and that's a rather blinkered way to look at our wonderful sport, isn't it?
     
  4. Kiwi Casual

    Kiwi Casual Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I was critical of those opponents at the time. 3 soft touches were too many. So is 4.
     
  5. Kiwi Casual

    Kiwi Casual Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Not really. I was equally critical of Parkers opponents back then too. Difference is Parker didn't get a title shot after it, and we're talking about recent opponents as well.
     
  6. Bokaj

    Bokaj Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Fair enough if you were. None of Joshua's four has been nearly as bas those three Parker had after Joyce. Probably not even Helenius who has a late sub for Whyte. So don't try and compare, please.

    Joshuas's were meant to be Franklin, Whyte, Wallin and Wilder.

    Parker's were three unknowns and Wilder.
     
  7. Kiwi Casual

    Kiwi Casual Well-Known Member Full Member

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    "Meant to be" means sweet fa. He fought who he fought, and had the ability to pick better. Are we really going to pretend Whyte was going to be competitive based on his previous performances?

    Parkers 4th fight in Wilder> anything AJ has attempted post Usyk. He came in as a huge underdog with many picking Wilder to win only to completely dominate him.
     
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  8. Bokaj

    Bokaj Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Nonsense. If he's accuseed for his matchmaking, whom he actually signed with means everything. And Whyte was way better than what Parker fought for his second fight after Joyce.

    Eh... Joshua had an agreement in place with Wilder before Parker fought him. And, again, since we're talking matchmaking this is what matters.

    You're a clown. Get over that Joshua beat you boy and accept that the ref had nothing to do with it. Pathetic.

    Bye.
     
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  9. Kiwi Casual

    Kiwi Casual Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Wow someone's mad. If anyone is the clown it's you for having an AJ level meltdown on a boxing forum. Calm down ;)
     
  10. bailey

    bailey Loyal Member Full Member

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    Joshua did fight a top 10 opponent in his 3rd fight after Usyk, so only had the 2 tune up fights
     
  11. MarkusFlorez99

    MarkusFlorez99 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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  12. bailey

    bailey Loyal Member Full Member

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    After Joshua beat him but before then he was good enough to push Fury and finish strong, beat Gassiev and be top 10
    Although Joshua was a big favourite I think many predicted it could be a bit tricky with Wallin winning some rounds

    It's funny but I would imagine if it had have been Wallin against some of the other top 10 at the time, say against Parker, I think some would have picked for Wallin based on the recent forms where Parker had lost to Joyce, and beaten Massey, Opelu and Kean
    And Wallin was on a run of 6 wins which includes Gassiev

    Sometimes we look at things in hindsight but you have to look at them at the time, otherwise many decent wins can be downplayed like Fury's over Wilder, which shouldn't be the case
     
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  13. MarkusFlorez99

    MarkusFlorez99 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Wallin is no good. All the upcoming prospects will use him as a test because he's an experienced gatekeeper lvl like Takam
     
  14. bailey

    bailey Loyal Member Full Member

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    That can happen to any fighter after a bad loss
    I believe it was being looked at for Anderson to face Wilder after Wilder lost to Zhang and before it was agreed for Anderson to face Bakole
     
  15. hobby rider

    hobby rider Well-Known Member Full Member

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    So do I