Anthony Joshua runs 100m in 11.5 second video. Most athletic heavyweight of all time.

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  1. Frankus

    Frankus Active Member Full Member

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    In regards to Greene, just like Flo-Jo, Marion Jones, Lance Armstrong and Barry Bonds he didn't test positive at anytime. However he was named as one of the star clients in the BALCO investigations. Also Lewis was cleared through inadvertent use (not a coverup) which wouldn't fly nowadays.

    With respect to Bolt, I hope he is clean but to improve by 0.5 in his 200m and 0.3 seconds in his 100m in the space of a year (from 2007 to 2008) raises serious questions. Also he has never been the same athlete since his 2009 peak, coincidentally the same year the IAAF introduced the athlete biological passport.

    And this talk of AJ going from 11.5 to 10.0 is ridiculous. That is roughly a 20 metre improvement in distance which is massive.
     
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  2. destruction

    destruction Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Good point about the reason for the Bolt peak and fall off.

    Also important to note, that from around that time a large amount of Jamaican sprinters started getting caught for the first time. So I have my suspicions about a test from Bolt being suppressed, just like it was for Carl Lewis all those years ago, because atheletics needs a superstar.
     
  3. JackSilver

    JackSilver Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I guess maybe with his pending retirement, Bolt has shown with his poor performances this year and in the world championships that he's no longer taking anything.
     
  4. EatenByTheWorms

    EatenByTheWorms Active Member Full Member

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    He really doesn't need all the muscle mass. It slows him down in the ring and makes him stiff, it's not the ideal physique for a boxer. He'll be powerful in there regardless of all that extra muscle. He would be a much, much better fighter if he was a little leaner.
     
  5. JackSilver

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    If that was the case, wouldn't all his coaches, dieticians and advisors have done something about it by now?
     
  6. EatenByTheWorms

    EatenByTheWorms Active Member Full Member

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    They should be. It's obviously the way he and his advisors decided to go in the hope he'd be more powerful in the ring, which he probably is. What I'm saying is I think he'd be a better boxer and more effective without all that extra muscle, because he does have skill, and I personally think he'd be better able to utilise that skill and his natural speed if he were a bit leaner. Just my opinion on it.
     
  7. N17

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    11.5 seconds, Hmmm was Amir Khan chasing him?
     
  8. Salty Dog

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    ...with no stamina...
     
  9. Todd498

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    When he was 15. Lol

    So I guess if Corrie had trained for it he would EASILY be sub 10 too right?!
     
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  10. Todd498

    Todd498 Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    I heard Wilder was timed at 9.8 running through the airport terminal after Povetkin 'popped'
     
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  11. Kevin Willis

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    Yep but I bet nobody would call Sanders athletic due to stereotyping.
     
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  12. Longhhorn71

    Longhhorn71 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Jim Jeffries, more so than Jack Dempsey, Rocky Marciano, or even Joe Louis stands up well when compared to big modern heavyweights. Jeff was 6’2 ½ and weighed about 217-218 at his peak according to newspaper accounts. With his 25” thighs, 17” calf, 10” ankle and 18” neck and thick bone structure, he had the size and dimensions to be a solid 230-pounder if he were fighting today. This is about the same size and weight as both Oliver McCall and Hasim Rahman both of whom scored knockouts over the giant Lennox Lewis.

    Gilbert Odd, a historian and boxing book author wrote in 1974, "James J. Jeffries was the strongest of all the heavyweight champions." According to those in Jeffries training camp, Jeff, "a lover of hunting, once killed a large deer and carried it on his shoulders nine miles to camp without stopping to rest. Friends who accompanied him had difficulty keeping up with him on the jaunt home."

    Jeffries had a lot more than just a modern heavyweights size and great strength going for him; he was also an outstanding natural athlete. John Durant, wrote in The Heavyweight Champions, “He was surprisingly fast and agile. He could run 100 yards in 11 seconds, and high jump 5 feet, 10 inches.” That is absolutely remarkable for a man of his size. Consider that Jesse Owens ran the 100-yard dash in 9.4 seconds a worlds record in 1936 (nowadays they run 100 meters). That a heavyweight boxer, not a track and field athlete, can accomplish such feats is the mark of an excellent athletic talent.

    Eyewitness referee Billy Roche concurred saying Jeffries had the "acrobatic springiness of a circus tumbler in his legs. He was no lumbering ox, anchored to one spot, but a natural athlete."
     
  13. thesmokingm

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    I ran 11sec or under in 7th grade. AJ is tall too so he has an advantage as he doesn't have to move his legs as much as a midget in middle school.

    And I'd also add that as a feat this is nothing. There are plenty tall guys running low 10s, like Calvin Johnson who runs a 10.25 something. Calvin btw is 6'5 237lbs and runs a 4.35 40yd dash.
     
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  14. Entaowed

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    Grade 9? That is at most 14-15 here in America.
    You are saying kids that age commonly run that fast?
    So they too might have ~ a 10.3 potential.
    Less athletically honed than AJ, yet also more schooled in the sprints?

    If LESS schooled as newbies, you are saying many kids could really go under 10 seconds with the right training?
    And with or without PEDs?
     
  15. Baneofthegame

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