Anthony Joshua vs Deontay Wilder - If they fought in May

Wilder hitting the deck from barley any contact and you call the heart?

Being delusional and refusing to knowledge that his opponent beat him isn't showing heart, it shows that he is sore loser.

AJ vs Ruiz wasn't lack of heart, it was trying to abuse his "A side and star status" by attempting to gain extra time to recover from (like Wilder did against Ortiz) and thinking the ref would allow it. Fortunately the ref didn't take any crap and saw through his attempt.

 

I call heartless person failing to ever attempt to unify titles and turningdown multiple fight offers (double his career high purse each time) to become number 1 in the divison to fight low level guys.

 

How is being dropped multiple times by a puncher not known for his power in Fury and being dropped by the likes of Nicholls and Scroniers tough? Being rocked by Molina and Ortiz tough?Wilder has avoided big punchers his entire career like the plague. How is that tough?

Whilst AJ on the other hand has only been dropped by two 2 opponents in Wlad and Ruiz. AJ unlike Wilder has fought some biggest punchers in the divison in Wlad, Povetkin and Whyte.

 

I tripped over a sock in the night, does that make me heartless? Its boxing FFS, not sure what this point meant at sorry.

Agreed, but he also went straight for the rematch and turned everything else down, so my arguments still stands

Interestingly, I've never heard someone defend AJ by calling him a cheat, hey, it does make a certain level of "A-side" sense, but I ripped Wilder for months over the Ortiz debarcle and if it came to light AJ was trying to cheat, I do the same to him. So, I don't agree with you at all, but the cheater option is viable.

No hard feelings Mitch, I tend to agree in most part with everything you post on here, you quite often save me from typing.
And as I've said before, for me its a 50/50 fight, with the only slightest advantage being the heart, which is certainly arguable as you've stated.
I still edge slightly with Wilder based on personal observations, but that could very easily change come May.

 

Willder for me, he has more heart than AJ at this point and isn't afraid of getting hit.

 

How funny is this poll. Shows how much AJ's reputation has been ruined over the years.

I'd bet Wilder lands a big straight RH and ends the fight.
If AJ could make it to the end he'd get the UD, but who can make it to the end against WIlder without taking bombs?
I have no doubt AJ can drop Wilder but whether he can finish him is another story. Wilder is pretty good at surviving and always dangerous and AJ gasses.

I think Wilder either lands big first early on and destroys AJ or takes some punishment first and then ultimately lands the bomb, maybe like the Ortiz I fight.

He is also capable of shortening up his punches close in and doing that. He landed these types of punches on Ortiz in the first fight. So if AJ wants to exchange inside he risks getting a short cross or uppercut in return.

 

I can’t think of an example of wilder landing an uppercut in his entire career.

 

Exactly....Fury and Wilder are so wildly overrated despite having paper thin resumes. Wilder get's credit because Fury made an absolute meal out of knocking Wilder out in the 3rd fight despite Wilder being done after a couple of rounds.
Both of them have to big the other up as if you take the trilogy out the only decent win between the two is Fury's over Vlad.
AJ get's a lot of crap on here and I'm not a nut hugger either. the fact is though his resume at this point is by far the best at heavy.
Wilders best win is Kong who like Wilder is completely untested against the other top guys so we will never know how good they actually are.
Although I don't particularly like Joshua's persona he has unified and tried fighting all the people who were willing to fight him and he deserves credit for doing that.
As I stated in my first post Wilder wouldn't fight Joshua in the first place. to think otherwise is deranged considering his previous form.

 

A resume mean nothing if the dude has the potential to quit when the heats too much.
A huge brown turdy quit stain all over that resume which he is yet to remove. I do hope he removes it though, a big KO over Usyk would be a great start.

I may even start to believe what others have said in that AJ was just trying to cheat, not quit, we'll see.

 

I think that's a little harsh to be fair. I get it you don't like Joshua but it's pretty clear that he looked off before the fight as he clearly had issues on the run up to the fight with Andy. There were rumours of an injuey rumours of him ggetting dropped in sparring. I don't know all I do know is that he didn't make excuses like Wilder did and took the rematch and won with ease. It's Heavyweight and they're big men so I don't subscribe to the nonsense that someone is chinny if they get clipped. it happens that's life.
The fact is Andy caught him with a good shot. he thought he could get into a fire fight whilst still wobbly on his legs and he paid the price.
Your entitled to think he quit. I personally feel he was trying to buy some time to recover and it backfired. he did rematch and beat Andy so that debt has been paid in full. The fight with Usyk has nothing to do with it as it was a different type of loss against a different opponent. I fancied Usyk in the first fight but didn't think he would get the decision. I think the rematch will be less one sided and if it's at least closer than the first I think Joshua gets the nod unless Usyk can stop him.

 

I never said I dont like Joshua once though now did I.. I'd be chearing for him against Wilder thats for sure, and 'll be chearing for AJ versus Usyk too.
But why you making excuses for him? You sound like a Wider fan dude.
The world saw what the world saw, and its upto AJ to change that opinion. He cetainly has the ability to remove the turd stain, but we all need to see the heart. Bring back the old pissed off fired up AJ, not the worried/apprehensive one.

 

Both are damaged good. The front 2 handed combo punching Joshua I thought might have to survive a scare but should beat Wilder.
But now i'm not so sure and Wilder's right hand break Joshuas chin... I'd favour wilder but with no certainty. It's a fun fight but probably ends AJ at the top if he looses so I doubt he takes it.

 

1/ Wilder would never fight Joshua full stop. Was offered a record pay day and ducked would rather fight Tyson "damaged goods" Fury
2/ I'm not making excuses for anyone I'm just giving an objective opinion. you appear to be the one that is very upset and crying about it.
3/ I'm clearly not a Wilder fan dude. or a fanboy of any fighter check my post history. I'm not a hater either I call it how I see it.
4/ As I've clearly stated several times AJ has the best resume so he's clearly shown a greater will to unify that Wilder and Fury. both of which are happy to fight C level fighters most of the time.

 

I favor Joshua 3-1 on this one.

Joshua just a much better fighter, Wilder with a puncher chance, specially now being trained by a yes men team.

 

1/ is speculation, we have no idea about the truth of negotiations.
2/ im laughing my tits off at youy fanyboyism
3/ no you're an AJ fan acting like a wilder fan cos you know your boy quit and need to save him depsperatly
4/ You cant polish a turd, but you can roll it in glitter, i get it.

pmsl bro, dont get so emotional, its just a diferent opion to yours.. AJ doesnt know you exist and he wont care either way.